No because that chart is TWO YEARS OLD. Is that seriously so hard to understand? How can you analyse a player using a JFRESH card that is 2 years old and has no data from recent years? Obviously Dadanov doesn't have a projected 81% WAR, it isn't 2020

The Dadonov one is showing his 19/20, 20/21 and 21/22. So last summer he was a top 6 player and VGK dumped him, but became a bad player after 22 games in MTL?

Why didn't MTL flipped him if he was such a great player with 81% WAR back then? Could have retained half and every teams would have drooled over Dadonov 81% WAR?

You said Dadanov was a bad player. Not me. He has having a bad year but was a pretty solid player for Vegas. Vegas also dumped Pacioretty who is a very good player. You need to learn to separate the player from the contract. Some good players have bad contracts which make them difficult to move. Dadanov is an ok player with an overpriced contract and is a winger so he has no value

But if he's just an ok player, how does he have a 81% WAR?

He probably doesn't anymore.

Yeah, but if you can't relate on last year WAR to project how good a player is supposed to be this year, then what are they for?

According to his WAR, if he had been a UFA last summer, Dadonov should have signed for more than his actual contract. Would he have been worth it?

The other image i tried to link and didn't work, showed Mete and Kulak both had the same WAR. Kulak is playing top 4 for the Oilers this year and Mete is an AHLer.

If you can't even interpret a Jfresh card, what is the point of using one? It shows that Dadanov has consistently been a very good offensive player. His defense was quite bad except for last year where it went up. In the end, he is a solid player, but more of a one dimensional one.

Advanced stats aren't very good for hockey because they expose the flaws of Montreal Canadiens players and you just aren't ready to accept that. Advanced stats is just math. It is objective. Eye test is subjective. You can't judge a player just by watching them. You can't expect to pick up all the small details they do. Anderson being big and tough makes him a perfect fourth liner, only problem is that he is paid 5.5 mil a year. You don't pay bottom 6 grinders 5.5 mil a year

But if he's just an ok player, how does he have a 81% WAR?

If someone had the ability to watch every player from every team play every game (that would be amazing).
In meantime, stats can be useful for measuring players one does not watch against ones that they do watch.

If I am making a judgement of Devils players against the league, I'll often use stats.
If I am making a judgement of Devils players against other Devils players, I'll trust both stats and my eye.

(and what is "my narrative" exactly?)

So Bergeron and Stone aren’t Selke candidates either?



What would you have wanted the Devils to do? Just stand their and act like nothing happened?

Craziest part of this is he has a minute of more shift before right n then a 10s bench?

There's context to everything you are sharing. It's not a direct correlation between Good Advanced Numbers and A Good Hockey player. Same with Bad=Bad

That was my point. I was trying to explain to him how a good player can have bad advanced stats, and a bad player can have good advanced stats.

He think that's impossible. To him, bad advanced stats = bad player.

I mean, it’s just getting too easy to dump on them lol

There was a TV timeout, a team timeout, a goal scored and about 5-6 stoppages within that shift. It’s not like it was 6+ minutes without a rest.

I mean, it’s just getting too easy to dump on them lol

Apparently there is an NHL team willing to give Horvat 9+ million a year as they think he is a younger Ryan O’Reilly. I really hope it isn’t the Canucks that think that