I agree. Like i told him, advanced stats don't show things like toughness, physical play, leadership, speed and many other atributes.

He's the one who think those jfresh advanced stats shows everything. He only look at those when evaluating players. I don't.

Shouldnt it have been a 4min PP for Tor as Matthews was bleeding from the high stick

I would add New Jersey and Winnipeg to that list.

When I see Toronto go to OT

OMG WE FINALLY ****ING WON AN OT THANKS HUBERDEAU

go leaf

Darth Vladar has been defeated

Peace has been restored till March 2nd

Physicality, and toughness doesn't put goals on the board, and doesn't prevent them. You can be be as physical all you want, but that physicality actually has to lead to something. At the end of the day, you can have all the skills in the world, but if you don't use them to your advantage, what is the point? Sure Anderson is big and fast but clearly that doesn't mean much because he isn't producing, and he is bad defensively.

I don’t have the Habs in there. Replace them with Edmonton. I also am just a bit bias.

I don't see any Oilers on here saying Josh Anderson is worth a 1st, top prospect+ or that Monahan will easily get a 1st

I’m a flames fan. We hate each other. I said it’s a bias.

I feel bad for Oilers fans for having to deal with Bourgault and 1st for Monahan or Anderson

On a line with 2 skilled, but small players, physicality and toughness from the 3rd forward will create space for the 2 others, helping them put goals on the board.

And as we already discussed, Anderson is most of the time on pace for 25 goals, and he's fast enough to play with skilled players.

It's not like he can't bring anything more than toughness. I agree he's kinda bad defensively. Not terrible, but not good.

I see them saying Tyson Barrie and Jesse Puljujarvi are very valuable assets

Monahan and Edmundson, on the rental TDL market, are each worth one of Bourgault or a 1st.

The thing with Anderson is if they trade him to a team like Edmonton for a low return and he start scoring 30+ goals with McDavid, MTL is gonna look bad

I think they'd rather wait a few years when the cap increase to get a decent return.

2 players with negative WAR and xWAR are worth Bourgault or a first? Why would the Edmonton Oilers pay good assets to get meh players who really don't make the team much better?

Rather have Pulju over Monahan and Anderson easily. At least he is young and not outrageously expensive

I remember people saying Puljujarvi was gonna be the next Nichushkin in the summer and everybody was dying for the chance to swindle Holland because he was to stupid to know what he had in him and now a 3rd to much for Puljujarvi to some people

Some Oilers fans just look at Barrie's offensive game and I usually judge how I value another Oilers fan opinion on what they trade Barrie for

Because no one will say that about another teams player here. I saw many Oilers fans asking for a 1st for Puljujarvi last summer.

Trade deadline market value. If you still think WAR and advanced stats are the only thing GMs look at, that's on you.

Anderson doesn't produce. Monahan has been better this season, but has been really bad the last 3 years. GMs will look at that. Sure there will be interest, but don't expect a first ++ for each

Edit: Monahan and Anderson are also both very expensive and overpaid. They would require retention as no contender has the cap space to take 5+ million dollars

Oilers don't need Monohon (last thing we need is a center) or Anderson (we already have a power forward who is miles better in Kane, and Schaefer on the way) at all, But I suppose I would be willing to table a decent offer Edmundson if I was Holland but would much rather him go after someone like Gavrikov

Monahan was injured for the last 3 years. We already discussed about that. GMs could look at 2016-2019 seasons, and see how elite he was.

Now that he is healthy, they're gonna look at what he can do this year. I would expect a return comparable to Copp. Would be a big win for MTL.

Monahan plays RW on the PP with Suzuki and Caufield. And i think it would be funny for Edmonton to add him as he was an important player for the Flames.

Imagine Monahan scoring the winning goal in game 7 overtime against Calgary.

But i agree Edmundson is exactly what Edmonton need.

I'm sure a contender is going to look at Monahan and his play from 5 years ago and go "yup, he must be elite still"