Yo dont bogart w.e you're puffin. Must be outta this world to think this is likely lol

Anderson wouldn’t crack the devils top 12 - Bastian and Mercer are both much better than him

They won’t cost that much to dump. Devils decline

HABS Accept

You guys must not know Josh Anderson too well. Your loss.

I do know him well. He is inconsistent. Lays the body and has good speed. But for two firsts it isn’t right. Also not the best finisher but isn’t the worst either.

Consistent play, consistent effort. Inconsistent lines mates. Thus inconsistent production. Hardly his fault though, we’re focused on bringing along our younger players. There are maybe 5 players/contracts in the league that I think would be as good a fit for your team. Whoever “overpays” for Anderson is going to be extremely happy with both the player and the person they get.

Anderson would be a terrible fit in the Devils system. He can’t pass and he’s terrible on the cycle. He would be their 14th forward

He is also not consistent. It’s one of the major knocks on his game . Anderson floats a lot

I don't know about that, Kassian makes 3.2 mil for 2 more years and it cost the Oilers a 1st (29th pick in 2022)+ 2nd + 3rd to dump his contract but they got the 32nd pick in return. So the 1st's cancel each other out then 2 years at 3.2 costs a 2nd + 3rd, Johnsson makes 3.4 for 1 year so a 2nd covers the cost to dump his contract. Now for Bernier, 4.125 Mil for 1 year is easily a 1st based on Mrazek, so far just the cost of dumping Johnsson and Bernier is 1st + 2nd based off of recent history. Adding Anderson is going to cost much more than the difference between moving from about 50-60th to 20-30, which is about a 2nd (in 2021 the Preds moved from 40th to 27 and it cost them the 50th pick). Therefore this deal is a bit light on value for Montreal, like a 2nd + 3rd (or prospect) short.

Johnsson = 2nd based on Kassian's dump
Bernier = 1st based on Mrazek dump
Anderson is a 1st + 3rd (or prospect)

This might be one of the worst proposals I’ve ever seen on here. Forget 2 first rounders; we’re not giving u a single first rounder for Anderson, especially with that contract. Habs would have to eat at least 1.5-2m to even consider a deal and there still wouldn’t be a 1st rounder included

Anderson has 7 points in 21 games, can you give me a comp where a player with that production got a 1st?

You're way off on the cost of the Mrazek dump. Toronto basically dropped from #25 to #38 in the draft to offload Mrazek on Chicago - the Hawks sent back their 2022 2nd in the deal. There's various draft pick value charts out here, but I used Dom @ the Athletic's GSVA chart most of the time. The difference in value in those picks is equal to a late 2nd/early 3rd rounder - so by your math, that's the most that Jersey should be offering to dump Bernier based on your comp.

you can keep him if hes so special

Both Johnsson and Bernier are UFA's at the end of this year...They'd be dumping about 2-3 months, not full seasons. These are not comparable dumps at all.

Do you think the Habs overpaid for Dach? he had 9 goals and 26 points in 70 games last season and cost a 1st (13th) + 3rd, Anderson is on pace for 19 goals and 27 points this season (much better production than Dach last year. Don't like that comp how about Lehkonen then, Montreal got an A RHD prospect (whose value was a late 1st at the time) + a 2nd for him and he had 13 goals and 29 points at the time of the trade.

if he is that good, why try to trade him so much...

“A unicorn of goal scoring ability”

(Currently tied for 156th in goals)

Dach was a #3 ovr pick coming off an ELC . Lehkonen was at .5 PPG and was cost controlled. . Barron was a B+ prospect, not an A prospect

Josh anderson hasn’t even hit .5 PPG in 4 years. His contract also sucks

Anderson is worth a mid-round pick with retention.

By using your formula, the cost to dump Anderson would equal five 1st round picks. (So, net 3)

Anderson
2023 1st round pick (MTL)
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2024 1st round pick (MTL)

Johnsson
Bernier

Deal?

I accounted for that, Kassian had 2 years left at .2 Mil cheaper but was and still is an NHL player, even still I dropped the 3rd for the extra year but since Johnsson is literally not an NHL player anymore you could add it back or even rightfully change the 2nd to a 1st since he will just be sent to the AHL again. Mrazek is 30 and Bernier is 34 and both have a horrid injury history with similar number of games played over the last 2 seasons, that is a very good comp for Bernier. Sure the Devils would get a 2nd back in a straight cap dump but it still costs a 1st to dump him. In context to the Anderson deal though take the 3rd out of my previous statement if you want to balance it, that means the original offer is still a 1st short though.

61.1% in the faceoff dot thooooooo

Wow. Devils add a 2027 7th round pick then.

Anderson is not a "cap dump" though, he is a quality NHL top 6 winger, Johnsson is in the AHL cause he isn't an NHL player anymore and Bernier is too old and too injured to stay in the lineup.

Look, I am not saying the Devils should be doing this trade (it's ridiculous to do for them since because of the cost of dumping contracts right now). All I am saying is that the deal is not enough as structured to both dump 2 bad contracts and get a top 6 power forward in return.