Allens done pretty well this season. Doubt the Habs go after another goalie via an offer sheet to replace him or move their 2nd round pick.

At this rate, Leafs say thanks for bringing the price down. Match that for sure.

3 things that are or have to be a joke.

1. Toronto marches easily
2. If Larkin would sign for 8 million, do not think that deal would have been made already
3. Edmunsson has 3 points over 20 games and is a minus 6, and you think you will get a better deal than Charoit who was having tens times the season that Edmusson is having is way off.

This is a delusional post.

Hoffman's cap hit next season is $4.5 million and Allen's new contract has a $3.85 million tab. I don't think that Los Angeles is interested in two aging veterans that expensive -- especially Hoffman, when the Kings have young players like Kupari, Turcotte, Anderson-Dolan, Fa-gem-o and others that they are trying to bring forward to add to the 10 forwards they have under contract for 2023-2024 plus RFA Vilardi.

can they really match it, i feel that might be hard no? with their cap situation? and you think thats sets the price down, what do you think is he worth? all honest questions!

imo it really depends on if muzzin's done or not. if he's done they probably would match. seems like every goalie is getting 5mil lately so idk what anybody's worth

yea we can. Next year is still the ridiculous Gio, Sandin, and Liljegren deals. Muzzin presumably done puts him on LTIR next year. Bunch of younger guys likely to compete for and secure a spot as well (Knies, Robertson, Holmberg, Anderson, Steeves, etc)

Assuming he's still solid all season I could see the Leafs offering a 5x5

i have a hunch he might be done. but do they want that much money tied up for goalies? with bunting needing a raise too.

i see. i was wondering if the leafs would rather get more depth in offense instead of tying up atound 9-10 millions in goalies. i know the defense wont change much next year, but the offense might be very different.

imo a 5x5 like the other guy was suggesting for samsonov is not a good move and they should keep bunting instead.

If they were really worried about an offer sheet they could trade his RFA rights for a 1st to a team that has room to pay him.

I've been thinking about Samsonov getting offer sheeted. The Leafs only option it maybe trade Murray (with a sweetener) or a buy out.
There are some team who are believe they are will drafted in the 20s in the 2024 draft who might go over 4,3. closer to 5m and then the Leafs would get a1st and 3rd.

No way Larkin signs with Montreal. If not Detroit, the Hawks, Columbus, or Boston could be looking for a centre.

Leafs can match that u know....

And Habs got 2 goalies already. 3 if Price returns so yeah makes 0 sense lul

On what planet can the leafs match that. They would have to trade a few of Keefoot, Holl, Murray

we have Sandin and Lily at 1.4M again next year, and Gio at 800k. Timmins will replace Holl making not much more than 1M. So the D is solid and dirt cheap. Kerfoot, Engvall, and Holl walk as UFAs. Muzzin's injury looks quite possibly career ending, if so he's on LTIR permanently. And, we've got a lot of young guys vying for a spot, making sub 1M, and a large number of them are likely to earn spots, such as Robertson, Knies, Holmberg, Anderson, Steeves. So the bottom 6 is going to be quite cheap next year as well. Murray is UFA right as Matthews and Nylander are, so you'd let Murray walk next year and you'd have the money for the core 4 extensions

common belief of people who don't really follow the leafs or understand their cap situation to always assume there's no money but it's simply not true.

leafs can swing it though. So many cheap contracts that should be making impacts on the team next season, then the real challenge only starts the year Murray is UFA. With the D being incredibly cost effective, the bottom 6 looking to be as well with Marlies grads and prospects vying for spots, it could be done. And if we think he's the goalie of the future it should be done.

Especially assuming Muzzin is done which I personally think is pretty likely.

yea I mean they very well might, but if we think Sammy is the goalie of the future and WSH really just gave up on him too early, and we think he's the next big time russian 1st rounder goalie which he's showing promising signs of, then you soak it for a year. Heck, I'm sure teams would have significant in Murray if we offered him for trade in the offseason given his play. But quite honestly if we get elite goaltending all year from those two, that's something that has hindered this team for years. If it means sacrificing some bottom 6 signings for prospects/Marlies guys (which I'm not even sure is such a bad idea anyways, we have some guys who look ready now or soon like Knies, Robertson, Anderson, Steeves, Holmberg) to keep high end goaltending I'm game for it.

its not an either or, they could swing both. I've tested some scenarios out. It means promoting a lot of prospects and marlies guys, but they honestly look ready to crack the lineup by next year.

I mean you’re making this work by having a bunch of rookies at under a million. If that’s the road you want to go, things won’t work out well for you.

And I can’t say it enough, a defense of Gio, Sandkin , Liljegren and Timmons is incredibly soft and no where near Stanley cup contender. I know leaf fans will point tk the last 15 game stretch but playoffs are always different and that D won’t hold in a playoff series. I just won’t…it’s maybe the softest D in the league.

holmberg won't be a rookie and nor will robertson, knies is our top prospect, and there are some marlies that deserve chances. If they falter we can look to the trade market but no reason not to give them an opportunity to start because they've earned it.

That tells me you just follow the typical Leafs narratives and don't actually understand the team or the players. Being "soft" isn't why Tampa won the series, any smart fan who watched that whole series critically would agree. You can spew that BS but its not reality. Top 5 goals against team in the NHL while missing our three best defenders for a long period of time but the D's not good enough, just ridiculous.

Listen, only time will tell but when someone who has never won a series in 2 decades tells you how to win series,I’ll look the other way.

That D has played well. But it won’t hold in playoffs. In won’t.

D core has barely changed from last year and wasn't a problem last year. We may not have won but no sense in pointing fingers at the wrong things.

I mean maybe for winning one round but 4?! No chance
That D has a zero percent chance of holding up for 4 rounds.

Gio is also playing way too much right now. This guy will be burnt by March if he keeps playing 20+ minutes

no **** he's been playing too much we had Rielly, Brodie, and Benn out, and Muzzin too. Everyone has played too much. Once Rielly is back things will start to come down to normal. He also hasn't had to play as much since Brodie came back and Timmins has played outstanding.