in reality he's a cap dump
however for some reason GMs love him... maybe because hes big
so i think he'll get a late first if a team has space

No, Montreal CF ACGM love him. His trade value...a second rounder at TDL in the last year of his contract 2027

prob Makar and MacKinnon

i agree some team would prob take him because there's always the GM that gets wrapped up in a career high from like what, 4 years ago now (?), and size. even though he should be a cap dump. But for like a 3rd rounder, not a 1st.

if the return is not Crosby you need at least a 1st and a top prospect !

The Mantha trade was a 1st, 2nd (2 picks), Vrana (prospect) and some salary in return (Panik).

Similar contract, similar player style, similar unrealized potential, similar position of strength of the owning team.

If I'm Ken, I keep him until I get a (low) 1st+ in return, without retention.

If not, we keep him for the rebuild. Period.

I guess the word cap dump has a new meaning since Monahan was dumped for a 1st, and Pacioretty for FC.

Back in the days, a 6'3 227lbs 20+ goal scorer, or a proven 35 goal scorer, weren't considered as cap dump.

Cap space is so hard to move these days. Good thing MTL will have alot of cap space next summer. Hope they can benefit from it again.

Think people will be surprised by how little he gets. He’s a 20 goal middle six guy making 5.5 with term. He’s a good player but best case scenario we might get a second in return imo. Contract kills his value.

Mantha's not the best comp for a few reasons

-Mantha was in his age-26 season when he was traded; this year is Anderson's age-28 season. Everything we know about aging curves should tell us that Mantha, at the time of the trade, should have had more prime years left before his decline than Anderson did.

-Tied in with the above fact - Mantha had 3x$5.7M left on his deal, covering his age-27 through age-29 seasons; Anderson has 4x$5.5M left covering his age-29 though -32 years.

-Mantha had a better history of production prior to the trade - he had 20+ goal seasons in 2017-18 & 18-19, and put up 38 points in 43 GP the year before the trade. Hell, even when he was traded, in a down year for him, he was still averaging 0.5 PPG (11-10-21 in 42 GP.) Anderson has one 20 goal season & one 0.5+ PPG season, and they were 4 seasons ago at this point.

I can see another team looking at Mantha, and looking at Anderson, and seeing the similarities - but I can't see them paying the same price based on the *hope* that he turns into a 20 goal, 0.5 PPG guy when he hasn't shown that promise. I get that he has skills that GMs drool over, but until he can start using those skills to produce anywhere near a $5.5M level, smart GMs are going to do their best to treat him as a buy low candidate. If it's true that Hughes has already turned down offers with a 1st round pick in them, well...I gotta say that's a big swing and a miss. He's done nothing this year to prove that he's taken the next step in his game, and he's not getting any younger.

With how the Devils are tending lately they're probably gonna want to hold onto their 1st.

Teams dont have space rn. I wish these trades would stop!
Too many ppl dont understand the market.
Anderson has value but not in this salary cap world. They arent in a rush to move him same as the Canucks arent in a rush to move a lot of their talent rn. 2024 is more realistic when the cap goes up!
Too many teams are squeezed.
Everyone wants to dump cap.
Kasperi Kapanen is a cap dump, for example, certainly not Anderson, who is a luxury talent for a contender while playing on the top line.
Kapanen cant even make the lineup on a consistent basis.

This. Nailed it.

Yesterday, i saw another Anderson ACGM where obviously, everyone's answer was "Anderson is a 4th liner cap dump".

So i decided to create this ACGM, asking what Anderson would realistically be traded for.

As you can see, not many people have the courage or the hockey IQ to answer that question.

Everyone knows it's at least a 1st, but saying it would make them look bad after pretending no one wants him and his contract. That's why they're hiding right now.

They won't answer cuz basicly they don't source their though outside emotion or trash talking.

If you you go here you will read :
«SCOUTING REPORT
Is a big, strong forward who can play either wing. He brings speed, skill, power and a bit of an edge to the rink. Has the skills to be a consistent 20-goal scorer, while playing a physical game. Has been slowed by injuries, but continues to be driven to improve and use his size (6’3”) and strength more to his advantage. Still has the hunger that helped him get to the NHL, even with greater security.

Long Range Potential: Solid power forward.»

We can see that he is still on pace for 16 goals :

https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/josh-anderson

Just with that we see a better suiter for 3rd line duty, but he also has added pk time and pp time. He can also win his fair share of faceoff when needed over 50% again this season (even if it's not a great amount this is good). He blocks shot, bang along the board and bring leadershirp among the group cause he is a willing player. The only downside of Andy is he plays a north- south style of game where our kids play a chess game on ice and MSL love this kind of chess hockey. Both Anderson AND Slafkovsky are in a learning process and can produce amid the fact that this is not their book of plays.

Many will state that Mantha produce more wich is right ... Can someone understand that Anderson AND Slafkovsky AND Lawson Crouse would produce with Capitals cuz they are an offensive juggernaut compare to Coyotes and Habs ... (greater pp system and greater offensive stats in general) same could be said for Suzuki compared to Petterson in this youtube who's playing with a team who has Horvat and Miller as first scoring or second scoring need ... !!

So yeah Habs forward corp is highly disregarded and undervalued and this is why many fans around the league drop the jaws when our player got kingsome return like Chiarot !

PS : Hello dear english people if you want to help my grammar or syntax english is not my first laguage and writing is kinda rough for me (too much health issu to fix language disorder) ! Have fun to correct me.

You keep saying this over and over but I really struggle to see it.
Which GMs do you truly think would be inclined to trade the equivalent value of a 1st for Josh Anderson without retention?
Can you name two, or more?

Lou would be one of them for sure. He's the most old school GM out there.

Could see Brad Treliving too since he was interested in Anderson when CBJ traded him. But they're cap strapped.

Oilers GM might think Anderson would be good with McDavid. Big body, fast enough to play with him.

But wherever he goes, Hughes won't trade him unless he gets his price, or need cap space. He always gets what he wants so far.

And MTL won't retain on 5 years of Anderson, but could take a 1-2 years cap dump back to help until the cap raise.