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1M Cap Incr amp Realistic PLD Trade

Created by: RemiLavoie
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 10, 2023
Published: Mar. 10, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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If the Habs pick in the top 2 then obviously Bedard or Fantilli would probably be on this roster, but I assume that's not happening.

Dubois trade breakdown
- The trade only works if Dubois acts a little bratty and makes it clear that he will sign nowhere but Montreal, and that he's ending up there no matter what. Otherwise MTL lose leverage and the Jets ask goes up.
- This is working with the assumption that Winnipeg wants to keep their window open and isn't going to start selling off assets.
- Anderson would be a great addition to the Jets middle-six, as long as they understand his game. He is a play driver with great straight line speed, but as such he tends to be somewhat individualistic when on the rush. He needs to play with more skilled players to involve him around the net when in the o-zone, something that he thrived with in his first season in MTL but hasn't gotten since.
- Edmundson needs to be healthy for the trade to go through.
- Edmundson (and defensemen like him) is starting to become massively undervalued by fans but I believe that GMs still see his value. He is a steady, physical, play-killing #4 defenseman that will shore up your top 4, with the keyword being steady. He is not the play driver on a top 4 pair, but he is very effective with a mobile partner in the d-zone and his type of game is extremely important in the playoffs as has been proven time and time again. Kills play well, and has a very good first pass. He definitely hasn't lost his ability to skate as he's aged. Plus, he's a two-time SC finalist (grrr intangibles grrr).
- I think that he can complement Morrissey, Pionk, and Schmidt nicely while being better defensively than Stanley and Dillon.
- This also doesn't saddle the Jets with an enormous financial commitment, they're only adding 500k to the salary cap when compared to the contract I gave Dubois (who would probably ask for even more in WPG), but that's also two roster spots vs just one. Edmundson's deal is only for one more year. If the season goes haywire, there will 100% be a market for him at the TDL and there would have been this year if he wasn't hurt. Anderson is a bigger risk with his term (4 years), but the Jets have the room and his deal will hurt less as the cap increases. He's a rare breed in the NHL, and he commands more money because of it. His buyout from 2025 is also manageable for a rebuilding team if necessary.
- Kidney is looking like a very solid B prospect with a middle-six future, but the caveat is that his high production is coming from the Q. If the Jets believe that some of his offense will translate to the next level, then he's got a good amount of value. If not, sub him out for another prospect.
- A 1st rounder that will probably land anywhere from 11-16. Very valuable. Can be used to pick a PLD replacement in a stacked draft for forwards or flipped for someone to replace his offense (ie. packaged with a spare dman for Reinhart?). Ditto for the 2nd.

I trade to make the trade fair in value considering the circumstances, without just throwing in any spare pieces we had. I acknowledge that I'm not a Jets fan and don't know their needs as well as I maybe should.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$950,000
2$850,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,875,000
2$1,100,000
2$1,000,000
8$8,500,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,000,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
1$775,000
1$800,000
3$4,500,000
2$4,500,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Edmundson, Joel
  3. Kidney, Riley
  4. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
2.
MTL
  1. 2024 7th round pick (BOS)
3.
MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. 2023 4th round pick (PIT)
4.
MTL
  1. Levi, Devon [Reserve List]
BUF
  1. Mesar, Filip
  2. 2023 4th round pick (VGK)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MIN
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2024
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the BOS
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$83,500,000$78,699,166$1,170,000$4,195,000$4,800,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$800,000$800,000
C, LW
UFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2

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Mar. 10, 2023 at 7:25 a.m.
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Sabres. Aren't. Trading. Levi.
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Mar. 10, 2023 at 7:39 a.m.
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The sabres trade is anything but realistic
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Mar. 10, 2023 at 7:39 a.m.
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That is a terrible trade for us. Any trade for Dubois is a bad idea but to give up Kidney plus one of our firsts this year is just an awful idea. We have no need for Dubois.
Mar. 10, 2023 at 7:39 a.m.
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Avs approve of the Wild trade
Mar. 10, 2023 at 8:30 a.m.
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Quoting: OldHabsFan61
That is a terrible trade for us. Any trade for Dubois is a bad idea but to give up Kidney plus one of our firsts this year is just an awful idea. We have no need for Dubois.


Ya, I think thats definitely an overpayment for an RFA, especially if he's "bratty" like you say. Not that I think Kidney is gonna be a superstar, but your giving up a top 6 in Anderson, a 1st, and basically two seconds.

An 8.5m offer sheet will be two 1sts, a 2nd, and 3rd. No trade for PLD as an RFA should be equal to that.
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Mar. 10, 2023 at 9:03 a.m.
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Dvorak makes some sense for the Jets, Anderson doesn't.
Mar. 10, 2023 at 9:27 a.m.
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Levi aint going nowhere
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Mar. 10, 2023 at 9:37 a.m.
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Completely unrealistic trade for PLD.

Anderson would be behind 6 other wingers on the Jets and had an awful contract for what would be a 4th liner on the Jets. He's has no value to the Jets.

Edmunson would be behind at least 3 and probably 4 Jets on the left side, is extensive and constantly injured. He has no value to Winnipeg.

Kidney, the first and a second are a good start, but the trade as it stands here is an automatic and easy no from Winnipeg.

All the trades heavily overvalue Montreal assets and are wishful thinking. All other teams decline easily.
Mar. 10, 2023 at 9:46 a.m.
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You know nothing JS
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Nothing realistic about this.

MTL won't trade away a 1st, won't trade for PLD, won't sign a veteran RHD, and Buffalo won't trade away Levi.
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Mar. 10, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.
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Dvorak isn’t worth a 1st and I doubt the Wild would trade a 2nd for him.
Mar. 10, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.
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-Winnipeg isn't taking back $9M in bottom-6/bottom-pair players. Kidney/1st/2nd starts it but they're going to want more if they're taking big cap hits back; otherwise they can just focus on extending PLD or potentially trading him as a rental next deadline. For every person saying that Montreal doesn't need to pay up when he might come there in UFA next summer, they're not wrong; but it doesn't mean that Winnipeg wouldn't find interest from a dozen other teams if they made PLD available, even as a one year rental.

-Wideman's got an extra year at $762K. Just bury him in Laval if you don't have a spot for him here, Arizona isn't in a spot to be giving up any sort of pick for a veteran.

-Just because Bergevin overpaid acquiring Dvorak doesn't mean another team is going to do the same. He's shown no growth throughout his career - he's basically going to be a 35-40 point player with okay defensive metrics best suited to be a 3C/PKer. Minnesota, in a cap crunch, isn't going to spend a 1st rounder to pay a third liner $4.45M.

-Buffalo trading Erik Portillo at the deadline should tell you everything you need to know Devon Levi's availability. They're not going to trade a goalie with his upside for a winger and a 4th round pick - they already have a nice stable of U23 wingers led by JJ Peterka & John Quinn, so Mesar doesn't really fill a need for them in the first place; plus, do you think they would want to trade a potential franchise goalie within their own division for this? Would the Habs trade Lane Hutson to the Bruins for Brett Harrison and a 4th rounder?
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Mar. 10, 2023 at 10:17 a.m.
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Jets have no need for Edmunson.
 
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