Right side d other than Filip Hronek

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Created by: Angusc

Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 21, 2023

Published: Mar. 21, 2023

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Rather than Hronek, would you give up the picks we gave up for him and instead use them for one of these players? Or do you think Hronek is the right choice for the Canucks instead? I don't like the Hronek deal since he will be overpaid next season.

I know all teams listed decline, but I'd like to know about their values regardless. Also, these players are chosen because this is about cost control for a longer period of time, as they are ages 25-26 that management values more.

Trades

VAN

2023 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 2nd round pick (VAN)

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Initial trade assets

DET

Hronek, Filip

VAN

Whitecloud, Zach

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More cost controlled player for 5 years since Hronek's deal expires next season. Probably have to add more besides the 1st and 2nd.

Barbashev and Kessel's deals will expire next season and they are facing a cap crunch. So bringing in Podkolzin would replace Kessel for either the same price based on his track record.

VGK

Podkolzin, Vasily
2023 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 2nd round pick (VAN)

VAN

Marino, John

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Another cost controlled D for a higher cap hit, but has 4 years left on that deal.

This is only if Severson really wants to stay in Jersey and refuses to sign anywhere else.

NJD

2023 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 2nd round pick (VAN)

VAN

Fabbro, Dante

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Either the NYI 1st or a 2nd if he is a downgrade from Hronek based on his stats.

NSH

2023 2nd round pick (VAN)

VAN

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One of Peeke or Bean or Boqvist. But I'm sure Boqvist is untouchable with his age and will want more, so I will go with Peeke instead since he has 3 more years.

CBJ

2023 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 2nd round pick (VAN)

VAN

Carlo, Brandon

BOS

2023 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 2nd round pick (VAN)

DRAFT YEAR	ROUND 1	ROUND 2	ROUND 3	ROUND 4	ROUND 5	ROUND 6	ROUND 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$95,452,083	$850,000	$0	-$12,952,083

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kuzmenko, Andrei $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Pettersson, Elias $7,350,000$7,350,000 C, LW RFA - 1	Boeser, Brock $6,650,000$6,650,000 RW UFA - 2
Beauvillier, Anthony $4,150,000$4,150,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Miller, J.T. $8,000,000$8,000,000 C, LW, RW NMC UFA - 7	Garland, Conor $4,950,000$4,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Di Giuseppe, Phillip $775,000$775,000 LW UFA - 2	McDonough, Aidan $925,000$925,000 LW RFA - 1	Studnicka, Jack $762,500$762,500 RW, C RFA - 1
Joshua, Dakota $825,000$825,000 LW UFA - 1	Åman, Nils $883,750$883,750 C RFA - 1	Mikheyev, Ilya $4,750,000$4,750,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3
	Dries, Sheldon $762,500$762,500 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 4	Marino, John $4,400,000$4,400,000 RD UFA - 4	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 3
Brisebois, Guillaume $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 2	Carlo, Brandon $4,100,000$4,100,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4
	Whitecloud, Zach $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 5
	Peeke, Andrew $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 3
	Fabbro, Dante $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Boqvist, Adam $2,600,000$2,600,000 RD RFA - 2	Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 4	Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW UFA - 1
Bean, Jake $2,333,333$2,333,333 LD/RD RFA - 1	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 2

Mar. 21 at 5:05 a.m.

theleano1

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Outside of Marino I think Hronek is better than all of these players so I am not upset with the price we paid, the real miss was not adding Marino last offseason, if we do that and add Hronek at the TDL the right side would have been solved long term

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Mar. 21 at 5:07 a.m.

McSorley

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None of those players are available other than maybe Peeke.

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Mar. 21 at 8:15 a.m.

C_LGRW71

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way way to much for whitecloud

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Mar. 21 at 8:51 a.m.

Just_A_Guess

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I think you guys should be ecstatic with Hronek and what you paid for him, I'm slightly jealous tbh...

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Mar. 21 at 9:11 a.m.

dgibb10

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Marino costs a lot more than that

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Mar. 21 at 9:12 a.m.

Imagine874859

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You want Petry? After this season if we get a new gm I bet we move him. And apparently Canucks arent rebuilding 💀

Mar. 21 at 9:17 a.m.

dopplsan

Nah.

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If I’m CBJ, I take that offer and run.

Mar. 21 at 9:30 a.m.

Ennis

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Quoting: dgibb10

Marino costs a lot more than that

A lot more than a 1st and a 2nd? you can keep him

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Mar. 21 at 9:47 a.m.

cbjthrowaway

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Quoting: McSorley

None of those players are available other than maybe Peeke.

Peeke is definitely available, as is Jake Bean.

Boqvist has taken some massive strides in the last couple of months but definitely isn't untouchable. Doubt they'd move him for picks, but in a package for a good center (i.e. Hertl), that's a different discussion.

Mar. 21 at 10:26 a.m.

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squashmaple

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I don't think Boqvist fits what Vancouver would be looking for, since he's basically a lesser right-handed Quinn Hughes. But for that price, any of those three would be available for sure.

Mar. 21 at 12:30 p.m.

#11

dgibb10

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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer

A lot more than a 1st and a 2nd? you can keep him

We will. He is a key part of a contender locked up long term on a bargain deal

Mar. 21 at 3:39 p.m.

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Angusc

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Quoting: Imagine874859

You want Petry? After this season if we get a new gm I bet we move him. And apparently Canucks arent rebuilding 💀

This isn't about Petry (if fans are still frustrated Hextall made that trade for replacing Marino), it's about comparing other players who would be either better, equal or worse besides Hronek in terms of their age and years/cap on their contract.

In terms of rebuild, trading for Horvat and getting back a right side D in Hronek is a retooling move, so obviously they're not rebuilding.

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Mar. 21 at 3:56 p.m.

#13

Imagine874859

Pens are better

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Quoting: Angusc

Ahh didnt catch on with that. Also Hextall didnt have to trade Marino in the first place.

Mar. 21 at 5:17 p.m.

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Angusc

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Quoting: theleano1

That was a missed opportunity by PA not getting Marino. The price of Rathbone and a 2nd seemed reasonable tbh.

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Mar. 21 at 5:25 p.m.

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Angusc

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Quoting: C_LGRW71

way way to much for whitecloud

May be too much on the surface, but he's making half of what Hronek, Marino and Carlo are making. 5 years at a 2.75 cap hit is pretty good value for any cap strapped team while keeping in mind they have to sign Petey next season.

Mar. 21 at 5:39 p.m.

#16

Julius_Freezer

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That is a MASSIVE overpayment for Whitecloud!

Mar. 21 at 10:23 p.m.

#17

theleano1

BRUCE THERE IT IS

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Quoting: Angusc

That was a missed opportunity by PA not getting Marino. The price of Rathbone and a 2nd seemed reasonable tbh.

1000% agreed

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