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Extend Severson Trade Marino for a Goalie

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 3, 2023
Published: Apr. 3, 2023
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Description
Just an idea

(Also, doesn’t have to be for a goalie)
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
2$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,875,000
7$8,125,000
1$2,050,000
1$1,250,000
1$1,250,000
1$950,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$5,750,000
1$1,000,000
2$4,000,000
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Blackwood, Mackenzie [RFA Rights]
  2. Foote, Nolan
  3. Marino, John
Additional Details:
I am guessing on a couple of teams here.

VAN: There was some talk about Demko being available at deadline. Not sure what the ask would ultimately look like for any team, but I imagine, in addition to Marino, Blackwood or Daws would be possible pieces along with prospect or pick.
2.
NJD
    Swayman?
    BOS
      BOS - I have seen his name bounced around, but no idea what their plans are going forward. He has RFA deal to sign this summer. And no idea what their needs would be.
      3.
      NJD
        Markstrom, Vladar or Wolf…
        CGY
          CGY - would be wide range of returns depending on which netminder. Not sure they need another defensive RD, but sounds like they may have goalies available.
          4.
          NJD
            Gustavsson
            MIN
              MIN - Wild have some cap constraints and a goalie in Gustavsson would may be pricing himself out of the picture (RFA this summer). MAF has another year and Wallstedt may be ready. If they are looking to replace Dumba from outside organization, could be match here.
              5.
              NJD
                Gibson or Dostal
                ANA
                  ANA - Ducks are in similar position as Calgary. A veteran on long-term deal and a top prospect in the wings. But with Stolarz as UFA, maybe they just roll with those two. Marino would be good compliment to some of their young, offensive dmen.
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                  23$83,500,000$83,685,834$422,500$1,250,000-$185,834
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                  LW, RW
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                  C
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                  UFA - 5
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                  $5,000,000$5,000,000
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                  UFA - 3
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                  RFA - 2
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                  $5,750,000$5,750,000
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                  UFA - 2
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                  Taxi Squad
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                  RFA - 1
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                  RD
                  RFA
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                  $870,000$870,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
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                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
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                  Nemec for Hellebuyck?
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
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                  The reported asking price for Demko was a 1st, a blue chip prospect, and a Raty-level prospect. It would probably take more than NJ is willing to give up to get Demko
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 9:51 p.m.
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                  We're rolling with Gibson Dostal. But we encourage you to pick up Stolarz as Vanacek's backup for a year or two until Schmidd is good and ready, he is a New Jersey native.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 9:51 p.m.
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                  I know everyone likes to bash Holl but he gets at least 2M a year maybe 3M in free agency based on what Ceci, Poolman, Ruuta, TVR etc have gotten.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 9:52 p.m.
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                  would need to be more than that. foote and blackwood dont do much for van. Marino, Mercer is a good start
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 9:58 p.m.
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                  You're definitely not getting Demko for that offer.

                  Meier is looking at $9,000,000 per and Bratt will get $8,000,000+ per You're not close on any player.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 9:59 p.m.
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                  Quoting: MisstheWhalers
                  Nemec for Hellebuyck?


                  Not Nemec. With four years until his first raise and cap getting right in Jersey, we’ll need him.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:00 p.m.
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                  Quoting: mv21227
                  The reported asking price for Demko was a 1st, a blue chip prospect, and a Raty-level prospect. It would probably take more than NJ is willing to give up to get Demko


                  We no longer have our 2023 1st, but the rest doesn’t sound hard to come up with.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:03 p.m.
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                  Quoting: GiggywithGibby
                  We're rolling with Gibson Dostal. But we encourage you to pick up Stolarz as Vanacek's backup for a year or two until Schmidd is good and ready, he is a New Jersey native.


                  …until Clang blows by both of them.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:05 p.m.
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                  I know everyone likes to bash Holl but he gets at least 2M a year maybe 3M in free agency based on what Ceci, Poolman, Ruuta, TVR etc have gotten.


                  He was really just a placeholder for short-term veteran rental to buy Nemec another year. Walsh probably gets chance to win job.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:06 p.m.
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                  Would need severson to take a hometown discount in order for me to consider this. 4.5-5 mill, which is unlikely, but otherwise I roll with Marino
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.
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                  Quoting: BenningTruther
                  would need to be more than that. foote and blackwood dont do much for van. Marino, Mercer is a good start


                  Mercer is not a candidate to move for anyone. Sharangovich perhaps.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:09 p.m.
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                  Quoting: BenningTruther
                  would need to be more than that. foote and blackwood dont do much for van. Marino, Mercer is a good start


                  Habs/Leafs/Vancouver fans compete daily to be most delusional.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:11 p.m.
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                  Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
                  You're definitely not getting Demko for that offer.

                  Meier is looking at $9,000,000 per and Bratt will get $8,000,000+ per You're not close on any player.


                  Both Bratt and Meier will be in Fiala-to-Forsberg range.

                  What do you think Demko, following an 0.894 season, costs?
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:11 p.m.
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                  Quoting: NHLfan10506
                  …until Clang blows by both of them.


                  Good problem to have if you are Anaheim.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:14 p.m.
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                  Quoting: dgibb10
                  Would need severson to take a hometown discount in order for me to consider this. 4.5-5 mill, which is unlikely, but otherwise I roll with Marino


                  $5.75m x 6 years is a hometown discount.

                  He is likely to be the most sought after UFA this summer, and shouldn’t have any problem getting low-to-mid 6s on long term deal.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:14 p.m.
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                  Canucks decline. The reported ask for Demko was a 1st, top prospect, and "Raty-like" prospect. My guess for the ask would be Nemec as the top prospect, Holtz as the "Raty-like" prospect, and a 1st. Problem is the Devils don't have their 1st in 2023, and their 1sts in 2024 and 2025 are tied up in the Meier trade conditions. That leaves their 2026 1st are the nearest one that is available for trade. At that point, the Canucks would probably rather look for a different team that can offer similar prospects along with a 2023 or 2024 1st instead.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:17 p.m.
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                  Quoting: NHLfan10506
                  Both Bratt and Meier will be in Fiala-to-Forsberg range.

                  What do you think Demko, following an 0.894 season, costs?


                  Allvin wants a 1st+Blue Chip Prospect and a roster player for Demko. Blackwwod can't stay healthy Foote is nothing special and once Vancouver got Hronek there is no need for Marino.

                  Meier is better than Fiala and is basically on par with Forsberg Bratt might be pretty close.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:20 p.m.
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                  Quoting: dgibb10
                  Would need severson to take a hometown discount in order for me to consider this. 4.5-5 mill, which is unlikely, but otherwise I roll with Marino


                  Severson will have tons of suitors, No way he's taking a hometown discount in NJ. He'll probably get close to the Sanheim/Weegar deals.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:24 p.m.
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                  Quoting: Epic_Ninja_Dude
                  Canucks decline. The reported ask for Demko was a 1st, top prospect, and "Raty-like" prospect. My guess for the ask would be Nemec as the top prospect, Holtz as the "Raty-like" prospect, and a 1st. Problem is the Devils don't have their 1st in 2023, and their 1sts in 2024 and 2025 are tied up in the Meier trade conditions. That leaves their 2026 1st are the nearest one that is available for trade. At that point, the Canucks would probably rather look for a different team that can offer similar prospects along with a 2023 or 2024 1st instead.


                  C’mon

                  Nemec is not available. No teams would even ask.
                  Holtz very, very unlikely to be available

                  A “Raty-like” prospect is Foote, Clarke
                  The other prospect could be Daws
                  And take any pick (the 2024 1st should be available).
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                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:27 p.m.
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                  Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
                  Allvin wants a 1st+Blue Chip Prospect and a roster player for Demko. Blackwwod can't stay healthy Foote is nothing special and once Vancouver got Hronek there is no need for Marino.

                  Meier is better than Fiala and is basically on par with Forsberg Bratt might be pretty close.


                  Bratt / Fiala comp works especially well since $7.875m x 8 = $63m. Bratt wears #63. (It’s science)

                  Agree on Meier/Forsberg.
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                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:27 p.m.
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                  Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
                  Allvin wants a 1st+Blue Chip Prospect and a roster player for Demko. Blackwwod can't stay healthy Foote is nothing special and once Vancouver got Hronek there is no need for Marino.

                  Meier is better than Fiala and is basically on par with Forsberg Bratt might be pretty close.


                  Demko is NEGATIVE 14 GSAx this year. 1 more year like this and he's a cap dump (see: Matt Murray). He does not have superstar value
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                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:28 p.m.
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                  Quoting: NHLfan10506
                  $5.75m x 6 years is a hometown discount.

                  He is likely to be the most sought after UFA this summer, and shouldn’t have any problem getting low-to-mid 6s on long term deal.


                  Then I'd let him walk
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:29 p.m.
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                  Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
                  Severson will have tons of suitors, No way he's taking a hometown discount in NJ. He'll probably get close to the Sanheim/Weegar deals.


                  He will take a discount in NJ if he gets term. Been reported by both local reporters and Friedman.
                  Apr. 3, 2023 at 10:30 p.m.
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                  Probs wont happen but would u be interested in Samsonov (Feel Toronto would probs choose extension but who knows)

                  As while Murray/Woll is risky a Dcore of

                  Rielly-Marino
                  McCabe-Brodie
                  Gio-Liligren

                  Would keep them pretty secure. Meanwhile NJ gets the WSH duo
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