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Ah yes the horrible proposals are starting

Created by: csick
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 6, 2023
Published: Jun. 6, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Zadina, Filip
  2. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
DET
    No thanks
    2.
    OTT
    1. Suzuki, Ryan
    2. 2023 1st round pick (CAR)
    3. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
    CAR
      No thanks
      3.
      OTT
      1. Ceci, Cody
      2. Foegele, Warren
      3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
      EDM
        No thanks
        4.
        OTT
        1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
        2. 2024 1st round pick (NYI)
        NYI
          No thanks
          5.
          OTT
          1. Robertson, Nicholas
          2. Timmins, Conor
          3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
          TOR
            No thanks
            6.
            OTT
            1. Mantha, Anthony
            2. 2024 1st round pick (WSH)
            WSH
              No thanks
              Buyouts
              Retained Salary Transactions
              DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
              2023
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              2024
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              Logo of the BOS
              Logo of the EDM
              Logo of the NYI
              Logo of the WSH
              Logo of the OTT
              Logo of the PHI
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              Logo of the TBL
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              2025
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              ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
              19$83,500,000$84,134,047$0$1,850,000-$634,047
              Left WingCentreRight Wing
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $8,205,714$8,205,714
              LW
              UFA - 5
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $8,350,000$8,350,000
              C
              UFA - 8
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $6,500,000$6,500,000
              RW, C
              NMC
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $2,950,000$2,950,000
              LW, RW
              UFA - 3
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $835,000$835,000
              C, RW
              RFA - 2
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $4,975,000$4,975,000
              RW, LW
              UFA - 4
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $2,750,000$2,750,000
              LW, RW
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $762,500$762,500
              LW
              RFA - 1
              Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
              $1,100,000$1,100,000
              RW, LW
              RFA - 1
              Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
              $796,667$796,667
              LW, RW
              RFA - 1
              Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
              $863,333$863,333
              C
              RFA - 1
              Logo of the Washington Capitals
              $2,850,000$2,850,000
              LW, RW
              UFA - 1
              Logo of the New York Islanders
              $5,000,000$5,000,000
              C
              M-NTC
              UFA - 3
              Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $8,000,000$8,000,000
              LD
              UFA - 5
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $4,600,000$4,600,000
              RD
              M-NTC
              UFA - 4
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $4,600,000$4,600,000
              LD/RD
              M-NTC
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
              $3,250,000$3,250,000
              RD
              UFA - 2
              Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
              $1,100,000$1,100,000
              RD
              RFA - 2
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
              LD
              UFA - 1
              ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $7,950,000$7,950,000
              C
              UFA - 7
              Logo of the Ottawa Senators
              $2,750,000$2,750,000
              G
              UFA - 2

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              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
              #1
              FartButt the 3rd
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              I'm happy to see the Tyler Myers trade proposals have calmed down a bit at least
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              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
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              Hockey IQ
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              @csick what would you ask from the pens for the Cat?
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:14 a.m.
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              Quoting: Pens3lieve
              csick what would you ask from the pens for the Cat?


              I wonder if a 3 way deal could work.

              Pens get Cat

              3rd team gets 14th overall, 2nd round pick Pens and Lassi Thomson

              Ottawa gets Carter Hart and Scott Laughton (or something similar return from another team)
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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              PlusMinus is stupid
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              Realistically, once the dust settles, he's going to cost more than most other fanbases are offering, but less than Ottawa fans are asking and the Ottawa fanbase WILL be a little disappointed in the return.
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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              Quoting: csick
              I wonder if a 3 way deal could work.

              Pens get Cat

              3rd team gets 14th overall, 2nd round pick Pens and Lassi Thomson

              Ottawa gets Carter Hart and Scott Laughton (or something similar return from another team)


              Interesting idea… we both know pit and phi won’t trade with each other so this is a good way around that
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              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:26 a.m.
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              Quoting: DeadWingsv2
              Realistically, once the dust settles, he's going to cost more than most other fanbases are offering, but less than Ottawa fans are asking and the Ottawa fanbase WILL be a little disappointed in the return.


              I don’t think I’m asking for much. I just want an immediate cheaper middle 6 replacement and a top 20 draft pick this year .

              Something like Dube , Vladar, 16th overall would be okay with me
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              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:27 a.m.
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              TBH if Debrincat has no intention of signing you get whatever you can. And if that's the case the CAR deal is my favorite...
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              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:27 a.m.
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              Quoting: FantasySens
              TBH if Debrincat has no intention of signing you get whatever you can. And if that's the case the CAR deal is my favorite...


              No thanks. I’d rather take Turbo back and a pick. This team cannot afford to miss the playoffs next year. Taking the Carolina deal leaves us sucking even worse next year
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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              if they got Ceci as part of a return I think I would puke
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              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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              Quoting: Fergy22
              if they got Ceci as part of a return I think I would puke


              Me too
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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              Wings deal would more than likely be the 17oa in this draft rather than the Boston one next year, plus one of the seconds this year

              Idk if that makes it more palatable for you guys tho
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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              Quoting: AmeriCanadian
              Wings deal would more than likely be the 17oa in this draft rather than the Boston one next year, plus one of the seconds this year

              Idk if that makes it more palatable for you guys tho


              It’s just not that interesting without a cost controlled middle 6 guy in the deal. The Sens will be worse off if they trade Cat for 17th and a 2nd . That’s basically what Hronek got and I would’ve never have moved Cat for Hronek
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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              Quoting: csick
              No thanks. I’d rather take Turbo back and a pick. This team cannot afford to miss the playoffs next year. Taking the Carolina deal leaves us sucking even worse next year


              Replace Debrincat with a healthy Norris, couple that with a healthy Chychrun all year and the extra money and assets you'd have to go out and maybe get a Hellebyuck(?)...they just may be in a better spot come the end of the year...
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:38 a.m.
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              Quoting: csick
              It’s just not that interesting without a cost controlled middle 6 guy in the deal. The Sens will be worse off if they trade Cat for 17th and a 2nd . That’s basically what Hronek got and I would’ve never have moved Cat for Hronek


              Kubalik instead of Zadina, but make the 2nd a 3rd
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.
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              Okay, now show the good offers
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              Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:45 a.m.
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              Not sure I've seen an offer like this from Toronto fans, seeing as they can't possibly bring in another 8M winger.
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 12:02 p.m.
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              Detroit adds a Detroit Style Pizza to the trade.
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 12:02 p.m.
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              The two likely outcomes
              1. AD Signs his QO and the senators go for it
              2. They trade him and get absolutely crushed on the trade. No team will give significant assets for a player with his contract situation. I’m talking like a late first and maybe a young bottom 6 forward.
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 12:03 p.m.
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              Quoting: NeedTheCleanser
              The two likely outcomes
              1. AD Signs his QO and the senators go for it
              2. They trade him and get absolutely crushed on the trade. No team will give significant assets for a player with his contract situation. I’m talking like a late first and maybe a young bottom 6 forward.


              That doesn’t move the needle. they’re going to make a summer hockey trade Tkachuk style
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 12:03 p.m.
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              Quoting: AmeriCanadian
              Kubalik instead of Zadina, but make the 2nd a 3rd


              17OA+2nd+Kubalik is still a pretty alright deal for Detroit assuming DeBrincat is guaranteed to re-sign here.
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
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              Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
              17OA+2nd+Kubalik is still a pretty alright deal for Detroit assuming DeBrincat is guaranteed to re-sign here.


              Idk if it’s a good deal for ottawa tho . Kubalik walks next year. Cat would be guaranteed to sign a deal in Detroit
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
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              Quoting: csick
              That doesn’t move the needle. they’re going to make a summer hockey trade Tkachuk style


              And CGY got crushed in the trade
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 12:05 p.m.
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              Quoting: csick
              Idk if it’s a good deal for ottawa tho . Kubalik walks next year. Cat would be guaranteed to sign a deal in Detroit


              Completely fair, but i wouldn't think Kubalik would be opposed to an extension in Ottawa unless he really wants to sign elsewhere.
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              Jun. 6, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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              Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
              Completely fair, but i wouldn't think Kubalik would be opposed to an extension in Ottawa unless he really wants to sign elsewhere.


              That is, ofc, the offered contract is enough for Ottawa's expensive ass housing.
              Jun. 6, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.
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              Ha. Welcome to being what is was like for Hawks fans last June!
               
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