SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/NHL Trades

(NYI/CHI) - Bailey, 2026 2nd (NYI) for Future considerations

Who won the trade?
The chart has been hidden

Poll Options


Jun. 29, 2023 at 12:53 p.m.
#26
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2023
Posts: 16
Likes: 6
Quoting: IconicHawk
The move purely to get above the cap floor, not because we expect him to return to his pre 2022 form


How does buying him out get CHI above the floor?
Jun. 29, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.
#27
Hakuna Matata
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2020
Posts: 34,040
Likes: 20,959
Should have asked for more considering this was a buyout dump
Jun. 29, 2023 at 2:10 p.m.
#28
You know nothing JS
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2017
Posts: 7,041
Likes: 4,431
Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Crazy that the Islanders only had to pay a 2nd to dump 5 Million in cap space


Quoting: Random2152
That's great.
You didn't get enough for your cap space


Capspace doesn't matter for bottom teams. It's about buying a pick for real money.

I didn't realise but his salary for next season was only $3.5M. Bought out at 2/3, It's a pretty sweet deal to get a 2nd in this draft for $2.2M.
exo2769 liked this.
Jun. 29, 2023 at 2:16 p.m.
#29
Grierless Sharks Fan
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2017
Posts: 2,962
Likes: 927
Quoting: Brian_O_Blivion
Really hoped SJ would do this.


I saw this trade and said that to myself.
Jun. 29, 2023 at 3:54 p.m.
#30
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2018
Posts: 349
Likes: 246
Quoting: Danny12357
This is an easy Blackhawks win. Not all cap dumps are equal, as the player you absorb and actual salary paid are a real consideration.

Chicago has a legitimate need for NHL veteran's to insulate their picks and prospects, and chances are Chicago would have to pay a bit of a premium in free agency to sign those players. Maybe they could have gotten a better player on a 1 year $3.5M (Bailey's real dollar cost next season) contract in free agency, but I can't imagine they would be much better off, so a 2nd round pick to jump the line and absorb some dead cap for a year is an easy deal to justify.

Paying a 2nd to remove a $5M contract isn't necessarily awful, but it's not ideal, and it really feels like a steep price to pay given the fact that Bailey is still a decent 3rd line winger (Maybe better if last year was more of a down year than pure decline), only has a year left, and is making considerably less than his cap hit.


Well the first part of this take aged poorly haha. I didn't see Bailey play much last year, his point totals were down, but I assumed with how Bad Chicago is, that a veteran rebound candidate would be worth a little something, but apparently they will be buying him out. They gave Foligno $4M for a year by choice, so not sure why keeping Bailey on the roster for $3.5M is so unappetizing, but a 2nd for nothing but cap space and cash is still a win for a team that is rebuilding.
Jun. 29, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
#31
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 40,181
Likes: 18,356
2026 pick...

Lou doesn't buy green bananas
exo2769 liked this.
Jun. 29, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.
#32
Black Lives Matter
Avatar of the user
Joined: Mar. 2017
Posts: 29,920
Likes: 4,651
Glad we have the cap space. Probably a win-win. Still sad to see Bailey go, though.
Jun. 29, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.
#33
exo2769
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2015
Posts: 15,649
Likes: 9,778
Quoting: jpsnow13
NYI wins since the usual cost is a 1st for $5M and it's a 2026 pick (!!!). But the market in the last 2 weeks has been all over the place....

Really hoped MTL would do this to get back in this year's draft. Now do it with Mantha!


I 100% respect your posts and thoughts. Not trying to throw shade AT ALL. Is it an Islander win if you hope MTL would do this?
Jun. 29, 2023 at 6:14 p.m.
#34
exo2769
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2015
Posts: 15,649
Likes: 9,778
Quoting: NHLfan10506
2026 pick...

Lou doesn't buy green bananas


Wow, great quote. I'm going to steal it at some point.
Jun. 29, 2023 at 6:57 p.m.
#35
You know nothing JS
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2017
Posts: 7,041
Likes: 4,431
Quoting: exo2769
I 100% respect your posts and thoughts. Not trying to throw shade AT ALL. Is it an Islander win if you hope MTL would do this?


I just learned today Bailey's real salary was way under his cap hit. A 2nd round pick to eat $2.2M (after buyout) seems fair to me.

Now Mantha is paid $6.5M next season! I don't see WAS paying a 1st because they would like to clear cap space but they are not all the way up to the cap. And I don't see MTL paying that much salary on a declining player for less.

I just destroyed my own idea. Oh well!
Jun. 29, 2023 at 8:17 p.m.
#36
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 1,123
Likes: 855
Quoting: Random2152
Chicago has been terrible at pricing their cap space holy.

Islanders win


And the overpaid for Foligno. Maybe they just don't know what they are doing.
Jun. 29, 2023 at 8:19 p.m.
#37
Just Keep Swimming
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 9,244
Likes: 5,595
Quoting: CSStrowbridge
And the overpaid for Foligno. Maybe they just don't know what they are doing.


This might be unpopular, but I dont think Davidson has done a particularly good job as GM.
He keeps leaving huge amounts of value on the board
Jun. 30, 2023 at 12:11 a.m.
#38
Banned
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 5,094
Likes: 2,372
Quoting: Jco5ta5
They’re about to explode with young talent next season (24-25) with Nazar, Korchinski, and maybe Oliver Moore. On top of having Bedard and Reichel.

The goal isn’t to put good veterans around Bedard. The goal is to get a top 6 and top 4 core of all roughly the same age and grow them together to keep a window open for 8-10 years.


I dont know about exploding with young talent. Rebuilding isn't that easy! Just ask the Sabres whom have legitimate talent tested in the NHL and still havent found success without a rounded out defensive group and goaltending. None of those guys have stepped foot yet in the show! Not every draft pick is a guarantee especially undersized players like Nazar. Chicago is still at least 5 years away from competing, they burnt their house down to the studs last season.
jr400 liked this.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Loading animation
Submit Poll Edit