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Team: 2023-24 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 30, 2023
Published: Jun. 30, 2023
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Kyle Davidson is an underrated GM and is finally getting some love from hawks fans.

Key Trades Made:

1. Alex Nylander -> Sam Lafferty / Sam Lafferty + McCabe + 2 5th round picks -> Joey Anderson + 1st Round Pick + 2nd Round Pick
----- Davidson find a GEM in Lafferty and gets a 1st round pick for him

2. Alex Debrincat -> Kevin Korchinski (7th Overall) + Paul Ludwinski (39th Overall) + 3rd round pick
----- Debrincat wasn't going to sign long term and get a future top pairing d man and tank for Bedard. (This Trade is a big reason we got Bedard)

3. Brandon Hagel + 2 4th rounders -> Taylor Raddysh + Boris Katchouk + Oliver Moore (19th Overall) + 1st round pick
----- HIGHWAY ROBBERY is what I call this trade. Raddysh is just as good as Hagel and we get Moore on top of it. Also a potential top 16 pick next year

4. Kirby Dach -> Frank Nazar (13th Overall) + Gavin Hayes (66th Overall)
----- Finessing Nazar is great Asset Management by Davidson on top of getting Hayes as well who has been great

Future NHLers drafted potentially:

1. Connor Bedard (1st Overall) - Franshise Potential
2. Oliver Moore (19th Overall) - Top Line Potential
3. Kevin Korchinski (7th Overall) - Top Pairing Potential
4. Frank Nazar (13th Overall) - Top 6 Potential / Top Line
5. Ryan Greene (57th Overall) - 2nd line Potential
6. Sam Rinzel (25th Overall) Top 4 Potential/Top Pairing (Tough to project since he's a project player)
7. Adam Gajan (35th Overall) Starter Potential
8. Gavin Hayes (66th Overall) Top 9 potential
9. Nick Lardis (94th Overall) top 9 potential
10. Samuel Savoie (81st Overall) 3rd line potential

ALL FROM 2 YEARS OF DRAFTING

Final Thoughts:
The kids are in good hands and that's clear as day. The new signings and trades will make sure of that. 2 really good drafts and now we have the best prospect pool in the league and we still have at least 5 more 1st round picks in the next 3 years and at least 8 2nd round picks.

Kyle has given this team direction and brought back hope to a franchise that tore everything down a year ago. I'm really happy with the direction that we're going in and I believe that Kyle is on his way or already the best GM in the league.
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Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:22 a.m.
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Too early for that. He was gifted a 1OA in a year in which a generational player was available. The trades are good but the picks still have to pan out before you judge them. We need to revisit this in about 3 years or so.
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Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:31 a.m.
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The Hagel trade has worked out well for both teams tbh, and Raddysh is nowhere near as good as Hagel. Also, the DeBrincat trade return didn’t look fantastic at the time and it still doesn’t. Only great trade he made was dealing Dach to Montreal for 13th overall.

Then let’s talk about his cap management and free agency decisions. This dude decided not to extend a qualifying offer to Dylan Strome, Dominik Kubalik, and Caleb Jones. He’s given out incredibly bloated contracts to Athanasiou and Foligno which makes no sense considering he could have just taken on more cap dumps like Josh Bailey. And even tho I understand why he would want Taylor Hall to mentor Connor Bedard, he shouldn’t have helped Boston out with their cap issues for free. Dude isn’t a great GM just cause his team won the lottery.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:38 a.m.
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His hockey knowledge is only a 4 out of 10 so hard to say.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:46 a.m.
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its easy to be said to be a good GM wheb you are just sellin players and expected to be bad. lets see how he does when the team is competitive
Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:47 a.m.
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Pretty egotistical post there Kyle.... 😒
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Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Not_Isles5513
The Hagel trade has worked out well for both teams tbh, and Raddysh is nowhere near as good as Hagel. Also, the DeBrincat trade return didn’t look fantastic at the time and it still doesn’t. Only great trade he made was dealing Dach to Montreal for 13th overall.

Then let’s talk about his cap management and free agency decisions. This dude decided not to extend a qualifying offer to Dylan Strome, Dominik Kubalik, and Caleb Jones. He’s given out incredibly bloated contracts to Athanasiou and Foligno which makes no sense considering he could have just taken on more cap dumps like Josh Bailey. And even tho I understand why he would want Taylor Hall to mentor Connor Bedard, he shouldn’t have helped Boston out with their cap issues for free. Dude isn’t a great GM just cause his team won the lottery.


Strome walking for free is the one mistake he made. Other than that he and kubalik would have scored to much and missed on bedard. Kubalik is inconsistent, Caleb jones shouldn’t be in the league, hagel has inflated stats from kucherov, not enough roster spots for Bailey. Foligno is a great leader and get to the cap floor. And also the cat trade was great and looks better as the days go by. Sens can’t even resign him and they’re gonna get pennys for him.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:53 a.m.
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its easy to be said to be a good GM wheb you are just sellin players and expected to be bad. lets see how he does when the team is competitive


The point of the post is to show he’s also a great drafter. Look at the players he’s taken in 2 years.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 1:54 a.m.
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He got a 1st for McCabe not lafferty, Lafferty fetched the 2nd although McCabe value was a 1st +. But he has done a great job so far as GM.
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Jun. 30, 2023 at 2:16 a.m.
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The point of the post is to show he’s also a great drafter. Look at the players he’s taken in 2 years.


That will be determined once they start making the NHL. However, all those guys are taken with high picks, so nothing impressive in terms of drafting itself.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 2:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Not_Isles5513
The Hagel trade has worked out well for both teams tbh, and Raddysh is nowhere near as good as Hagel. Also, the DeBrincat trade return didn’t look fantastic at the time and it still doesn’t. Only great trade he made was dealing Dach to Montreal for 13th overall.

Then let’s talk about his cap management and free agency decisions. This dude decided not to extend a qualifying offer to Dylan Strome, Dominik Kubalik, and Caleb Jones. He’s given out incredibly bloated contracts to Athanasiou and Foligno which makes no sense considering he could have just taken on more cap dumps like Josh Bailey. And even tho I understand why he would want Taylor Hall to mentor Connor Bedard, he shouldn’t have helped Boston out with their cap issues for free. Dude isn’t a great GM just cause his team won the lottery.


The buyout of Bailey was planned prior to the trade I believe as he wanted to test FA. They liked the fit with Athanasiou and they brought in Foligno and Perry for leadership. Hall is probably really there so that Bedard can produce but the team will still suck, and they probably want to win the lottery again.

I think KD should get credit for taking advantage of Bedard being in the draft and really committing to it even by letting Strome and Kubalik go untendered.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 7:40 a.m.
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I'd say we've got the 2nd best prospect pool. What Buffalo has going is crazy impressive. Quinn, Cozens, Petterka, Savoie, Benson, Kulich, Rosen, Power, Johnson, Levi, etc.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
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Quoting: TheRealKyleDavidson
The point of the post is to show he’s also a great drafter. Look at the players he’s taken in 2 years.


None of his picks have played in the show yet. We don't know how good his picks are. And no he doesn't get credit for Bedard, they got lucky that the lottery favored them and he's a consensus number 1 pick.

They weren't last place. They got out tanked and just got lucky that the lottery went their way
Jun. 30, 2023 at 8:41 a.m.
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Can someone from Chicago explain the reasoning to paying TB a 7th to negotiate a 4M deal with a 38 year old?

Like I get needing to get to the cap floor, but couldn't Perry be had at like half that? Take on some contracts with picks (Bailey for example). Even if you retain half on Perry at the deadline, is someone going to take him at 2M when they were expecting to maybe get him at league min during the offseason?
Jun. 30, 2023 at 8:50 a.m.
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I like a lot of his moves but even then it's too early to really judge him. It'll take a few years to really see how good he is.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:08 a.m.
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Tkachuk + Stutzle + Dorion for Davidson?

That's how bad I want to get rid of Dorion
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:12 a.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
That will be determined once they start making the NHL. However, all those guys are taken with high picks, so nothing impressive in terms of drafting itself.


Ryan Greene and Gavin Hayes were 3rd and 2nd round picks. They both could become 2nd line players
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:16 a.m.
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None of his picks have played in the show yet. We don't know how good his picks are. And no he doesn't get credit for Bedard, they got lucky that the lottery favored them and he's a consensus number 1 pick.

They weren't last place. They got out tanked and just got lucky that the lottery went their way


Kyle put them in the position to get Bedard. Call tanking whatever you want and flame him for it but he was able to sell players for our future while getting bedard.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:18 a.m.
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Can someone from Chicago explain the reasoning to paying TB a 7th to negotiate a 4M deal with a 38 year old?

Like I get needing to get to the cap floor, but couldn't Perry be had at like half that? Take on some contracts with picks (Bailey for example). Even if you retain half on Perry at the deadline, is someone going to take him at 2M when they were expecting to maybe get him at league min during the offseason?


Bailey doesn't provide the same presence as Perry. Bailey is a leader but he doesn't have the same on ice presence as Perry. Perry is also a winner in the league. He has a hart trophy and stanley cup.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
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Bailey doesn't provide the same presence as Perry. Bailey is a leader but he doesn't have the same on ice presence as Perry. Perry is also a winner in the league. He has a hart trophy and stanley cup.


What is Perry going to teach Bedard in a year that warrants giving him 4M? Just seems a little odd to me. Maybe not even a full year if the intention is to move him at the deadline.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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Kyle put them in the position to get Bedard. Call tanking whatever you want and flame him for it but he was able to sell players for our future while getting bedard.


Chicago wasn't worst in the league. They lucked into first overall. He put them in a position to be bad, sure. But no offense, every single GM to ever live can make a team bad. That isn't deserving of credit. They got lucky with the lottery and now they have a potential generational talent.

His prospects haven't played any NHL games yet though. We don't know whether he's picked well.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:26 a.m.
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Ryan Greene and Gavin Hayes were 3rd and 2nd round picks. They both could become 2nd line players


Yeah, mid round picks, not late ones.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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The point of the post is to show he’s also a great drafter. Look at the players he’s taken in 2 years.


yout cant be a good drafter until anyone play any nhl games, we'll see in a few years.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 10:53 a.m.
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I'll join the group saying that, while I think Davidson has done a great job getting value for players that weren't part of the rebuild, I also think you have to hold out full marks until we start seeing what these picks turn into. Can't really give credit for Bedard because that's literally winning the lottery - I want to see what guys like Korchinski and Nazar turn into at the NHL level before I start talking about Davidson being the best GM in the league.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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Great asset management and I give him credit for that but the jury is and will continue to be out on the picks until guys like nazar, korchinski, moore, make the nhl. I'm skepitcal to crown him this perfect drafter when a ton of our late 1st/2nd/3rd round picks have been off the board from consensus and we havent seen them pan out yet. If anything, KD has huge shoes to fill in the scouting dept since Mark Kelley had an amazing ability to pick out guys like reichel, debrincat, hartman, schmaltz, danault, saad from that 20-40 range AND had the best euro pro scouting dept in the league that snagged us probably a dozen pros since our last cup.

Its easy to tank, its tough to win. I really like what he's done but lets wait a few years before we really determine how good of a talent evaluator and deal maker he really is.
Jun. 30, 2023 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
Yeah, mid round picks, not late ones.


What? Any player taken past the 1st round with top6 potential is a gem
 
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