Chicago declines.

A future 1st, a cap dump, and a guy that has seriously struggled to crack the NHL is not enough for Pesce

I think you will get a lot of push back from Hawks fans, most have Murphy highly rated, too much so in my opinion.

Having said that I do think it would take more to get the Hawks to accept, like Vancouver adding a 2nd round pick or flipping their 2024 1st for a 2024 2nd.

Pearson is a no go for the Canes

Pesce or Skjei is likely gone though, right? What would the cost for either of them be, roughly?

I really want to see the Franken-Blueline. Slavin - Burns, Skjei - Pesce, Orlov - DeAngelo.

Skjei is likely gone. I'd imagine it costs a 1st + for him since he's coming off a 17 goal season for a defenseman

-Chicago's taking a ton of cap hit off your hands for what, here, exactly? Vancouver's shedding $6.5M in cap and getting arguably the best player in the deal; I think Chicago is going to need some significant add to agree to this.

-I think Hoglander and the 1st is a good start here, but I think Pearson is basically no value for the Hurricanes. I would assume Carolina would want a strong prospect coming back here - they're not necessarily in a spot where they *NEED* to move Pesce, so they have the ability to ask for top dollar. This isn't top dollar.

Hawks give up the best player in that trade, take on a ton of cap, and don't get a single piece for their current rebuild. Hawks very easily decline. Take out Murphy and they still decline.

That Hawks trade is hella bad. Wow! Congrats!

Thanks!

Garland is the best player in the deal IMO. Respect your take though.

I don’t think value is far off for Murphy but I can understand if these aren’t the pieces they’d want or need

Imo I just feel that the canes don’t have much leverage and either pesce or skjei are on their way out anyways. If they think they can get a better offer then all the power to them

Was more for cap reasons but I get it

What would your offer be from Van?

Myers is garbage and adds negative value. Hawks are not competing, they are rebuilding so Garland doesn't have much value either. So yes, the pieces are wrong. If you wanna get rid of Garland and Myers you have to add picks/good prospects. And if you want Murphy you are gonna have to increase those picks/prospects even more.