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Created by: TMLBRIAN

Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 10, 2023

Published: Jul. 10, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Detroit can very much use an upgrade to their LD. They have a lot of bottom pair guys. Miller would be a big upgrade and fits their timeline very well. New York get cap space, a replacement D, 3 picks and a promising although small forward prospect.

Thoughts?

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Miller, K'Andre		8	$6,500,000

Trades

DET

Miller, K'Andre [RFA Rights]

NYR

Lombardi, Amadeus
Määttä, Olli
2024 2nd round pick (DET)
2025 1st round pick (DET)
2026 3rd round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

top 10 protected

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $1,055,556
Kailer Yamamoto: $433,334

Retained Salary Transactions

Jakub Vrána: $2,625,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$79,715,556	$0	$3,407,500	$3,784,444

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
DeBrincat, Alex $7,875,000$7,875,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Larkin, Dylan $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NTC UFA - 8	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 1
Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 1	Copp, Andrew $5,625,000$5,625,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Perron, David $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW UFA - 2	Compher, J.T. $5,100,000$5,100,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Sprong, Daniel $2,000,000$2,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Söderblom, Elmer $878,333$878,333 ($57,500$58K) LW, C RFA - 2	Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,460,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Kostin, Klim $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW RFA - 2
	Fischer, Christian $1,125,000$1,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Walman, Jake $3,400,000$3,400,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 1	Husso, Ville $4,750,000$4,750,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Miller, K'Andre $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD RFA - 2	Chiarot, Ben $4,750,000$4,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Reimer, James $1,500,000$1,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Gostisbehere, Shayne $4,125,000$4,125,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Holl, Justin $3,400,000$3,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3
	Lindström, Gustav $950,000$950,000 RD RFA - 1

Jul. 10, 2023 at 4:45 p.m.

mmccRed198913

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Oh dear. No

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Jul. 10, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

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No thanks. Rather just make the safe bet of at least Wallinder or Johansson being better lol.

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Jul. 10, 2023 at 4:49 p.m.

aedoran

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Quoting: mmccRed198913

Oh dear. No

I agree and I have a feeling NYR fans aren't going to be as nice about it.

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Jul. 10, 2023 at 4:50 p.m.

PuzzledActuary

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Miller would cost Wallinder/Edvinsson/Kasper type of prospects, not throwaways and middling picks.

Plus, where does Edvinsson slot in? What if Wallinder and Johansson prove to be NHL talents?

If this trade included Waldman then it would make a bit more sense, but the cost is still way higher than that.

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Jul. 10, 2023 at 4:50 p.m.

Swampy_Rabbit

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Ummm, you okay Stevie? -Drury

Jul. 10, 2023 at 4:57 p.m.

Onlyfairtrades1

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Rangers wouldn't even consider it.

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Jul. 10, 2023 at 5:04 p.m.

BroadwayBlueshirts

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Quoting: aedoran

I agree and I have a feeling NYR fans aren't going to be as nice about it.

Are we supposed to be nice about trading our 2nd best defenseman and replacing him with Oli Maatta? I'm just thinking about how bad I feel for Igor most nights lmao, this only gonna make it worse

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Jul. 10, 2023 at 5:04 p.m.

CoachCoach

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Future top 4-
Wallinder-Seider
Edvinsson- ASP

Other LHD in the mix: AJ/Walman/Buium/Bradley

Other RHD in the mix: Gibson/Tuomisto

The defensive future is in the system. Not worth it to throw assets away for redundancy. Not to mention NYR probably keeps Miller and that offer doesn’t cut it.

Jul. 10, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.

buffbry

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Wings pass they have plenty of guys who will be just as good if not better at LD

Jul. 10, 2023 at 5:12 p.m.

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Fox_Czar_Cup

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Funny, KAM is exactly what NYR need also

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Jul. 10, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.

#11

Rags21

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This trade would set the rangers way back in their win-now mode. KAM is looking like their future 1LD with his size and raw athletic ability

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Jul. 10, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.

#12

Goalie

Exhausted Ranger Fan

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At least make the offer worth our time…

Jul. 10, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.

#13

aedoran

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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirts

Are we supposed to be nice about trading our 2nd best defenseman and replacing him with Oli Maatta? I'm just thinking about how bad I feel for Igor most nights lmao, this only gonna make it worse

It was a sub par offer for a really good player you can act how ever you want and I have no intension of judging your reaction.

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Jul. 10, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.

#14

TMLBRIAN

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Literally everyone from both parties have hated this trade. NOTED. Haha - Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Jul. 10, 2023 at 8:52 p.m.

#15

IDKtbh

Stats Are For Losers

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

Literally everyone from both parties have hated this trade. NOTED. Haha - Thanks for the feedback everyone.

I actually liked it. I’ve been drooling at the thought of a Miller/Seider pairing for the last 2 years and I actually think your trade is decently fair.

I also think having a LHD trio of Miller Edvinsson & Wallinder would probably be the best in the league in 2 years.

I’d be all for it but, we’d need to move Walman AND more importantly Chiarot for something like this to work.

Jul. 10, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.

#16

GoofyFoFoofy

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Yeah if you want Miller it's gonna at least take a very high end prospect + a 1st coming back because the Rangers are competing now so they're gonna need a very good reason to get rid of one of their core pieces.

I don't think Yzerman would want to part with those kinds of assets, Wings and Rangers don't seem like compatible trade partners here.

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