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Which trade package would you rather get in exchange for EK65

Created by: sensonfire
Team: 2023-24 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 11, 2023
Published: Jul. 11, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Assuming EK65 waives his NMC for both teams, the Sharks retain 2.5 million of his salary per year and these are the two best packages.


Each trade package is loosely based on what San Jose gave up to acquire EK65 back in 2018.



Which one would you rather have?
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Coghlan, Dylan
  2. Gunler, Noel
  3. Nadeau, Bradly [Reserve List]
  4. Teräväinen, Teuvo
  5. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
  7. 2026 2nd round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
* San Jose receives Carolina's 2024 1st if Carolina misses the playoffs.

If Carolina makes the playoffs, San Jose receives Carolina's 2025 1st instead.



** The 2026 2nd upgrades to a 2026 1st if Carolina reaches the Stanley Cup Finals in 2024.



*** The 2024 2nd that San Jose receives is the higher of the two picks that Carolina currently owns: the Flyers pick and their own
CAR
  1. Karlsson, Erik ($2,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
This one?
2.
SJS
  1. Ansons, Raivis
  2. Granlund, Mikael
  3. Pickering, Owen
  4. Ruhwedel, Chad
  5. 2024 1st round pick (PIT)
  6. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
  7. 2026 2nd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
* San Jose receives Pittsburgh's 2024 1st if Pittsburgh misses the playoffs.

If Pittsburgh makes the playoffs, San Jose receives Pittsburgh's 2025 1st instead.



** The 2026 2nd upgrades to a 2026 1st if Pittsburgh reaches the Stanley Cup Finals in 2024.
PIT
    Or that one?
    Buyouts
    Retained Salary Transactions
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2024
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the NJD
    Logo of the PHI
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the VGK
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the NJD
    2025
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the WPG
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the WSH
    2026
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    Logo of the SJS
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    27$83,500,000$80,758,334$25,000$862,500$2,741,666
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $6,750,000$6,750,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,450,000$1,450,000
    RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $4,725,000$4,725,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $775,000$775,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,750,000$2,750,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,250,000$2,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $2,350,000$2,350,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,250,000$1,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the San Jose Sharks
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $850,000$850,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,400,000$5,400,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $862,500$862,500 (Performance Bonus$12,500$12K)
    RW, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $800,000$800,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $844,167$844,167
    LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $918,333$918,333
    LD
    RFA - 4

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    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:06 a.m.
    #1
    Habs4Ever
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    Neither can take that much cap
    Especially PIT
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
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    These are way off rendering this post and poll way off.

    IF these were the packages why wouldn’t the sharks have taken one of them already???
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
    Neither can take that much cap
    Especially PIT


    Let's say San Jose retains 50% then.

    Which return would you rather have if you're San Jose?
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    These are way off rendering this post and poll way off.

    IF these were the packages why wouldn’t the sharks have taken one of them already???


    Pittsburgh and Carolina are rumoured to be the two frontrunners to acquire EK65.

    I don't know what the return will be and neither do you.

    So, I came up with two packages that sort of look like what San Jose gave Ottawa back in 2018.



    All I'm asking is this:

    What would you rather have if you're San Jose?



    If you don't want to answer the question, go whine and complain somewhere else.
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:15 a.m.
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    I would lean Carolina. I think the Sharks would flip Teuvo, either immediately or at the trade deadline and I think he's probably worth a late first (maybe less, since he's coming off a down year). I'm not super familiar with any of the prospects; Gunler was picked higher and two years earlier, so maybe he's closer to the NHL?

    I suppose with Pittsburgh's package there's a better chance that the 1st rounder transfers this year or that there's a better chance for a higher pick in 2025. Still leaning Canes though
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    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:16 a.m.
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    Quoting: ForsbergForVezina
    I would lean Carolina. I think the Sharks would flip Teuvo, either immediately or at the trade deadline and I think he's probably worth a late first (maybe less, since he's coming off a down year). I'm not super familiar with any of the prospects; Gunler was picked higher and two years earlier, so maybe he's closer to the NHL?

    I suppose with Pittsburgh's package there's a better chance that the 1st rounder transfers this year or that there's a better chance for a higher pick in 2025. Still leaning Canes though


    Thank you.
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    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.
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    Why can’t I whine and complain both here and elsewhere - this is the internet after all.

    Hope you get everything you are looking for in life, and all your dreams come true. Vote for Greer.

    Quoting: sensonfire
    Pittsburgh and Carolina are rumoured to be the two frontrunners to acquire EK65.

    I don't know what the return will be and neither do you.

    So, I came up with two packages that sort of look like what San Jose gave Ottawa back in 2018.



    All I'm asking is this:

    What would you rather have if you're San Jose?



    If you don't want to answer the question, go whine and complain somewhere else.
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    Why can’t I whine and complain both here and elsewhere - this is the internet after all.

    Hope you get everything you are looking for in life, and all your dreams come true. Vote for Greer.


    Thank you for admitting you like to whine and complain on the internet.

    I've now learned something new about you.



    And voting for Grier is a non-answer.

    You may choose between Pittsburgh and Carolina.

    Thank you and have a nice day.
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: TheRealisticGuy
    Neither can take that much cap
    Especially PIT


    I Agree!
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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    Value is better in canes offer. That being said, pens win if that’s their offer bc canes wouldn’t come close to sending that package.
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Value is better in canes offer. That being said, pens win if that’s their offer bc canes wouldn’t come close to sending that package.


    Thank you.
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    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.
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    SJS chooses the CAR offer between those two.

    Also, I got a feeling the Kraken are darkhorses here.
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    Jul. 11, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
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    I recognize that this is all essentially "fantasy" league. So there are no wrong answers in a fantasy league. But just so we're all clear about the fantasy part. If I'm weighing in on this, I wouldn't think some of the pieces here would be of interest to SJ, but I refer back to the aforementioned fantasy statement. Peace out.
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
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    If Teuvo has SJS on his NTC then what for the canes? (b/c i wouldn't be shocked if he did) I'm guessing at this but I feel like the european players tend to have the bottom teams in the league on their NTC list b/c they don't mind playing in canada given their tax situation in europe where as US born players tend to have a mix of Canada teams and bottom teams. Just a hunch.

    Also regardless of the package both CAR and PIT need more retained.

    The hold up at this point is probably on retention regardless of the landing spot for EK. SJ won't eat much and i'm guessing finding a third team to eat cap for 4 years is proving difficult.
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    Jul. 11, 2023 at 12:56 p.m.
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    Now SJ is retaining 50%?

    Quoting: sensonfire
    Let's say San Jose retains 50% then.

    Which return would you rather have if you're San Jose?
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    Now SJ is retaining 50%?


    I'm just trying to get people to answer a simple question.
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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    The value is better from the Canes. That being said, Grier would be taking the Pens package, considering that the Canes won’t even make the consideration of offering that package.
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    Jul. 11, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: evelutions2
    The value is better from the Canes. That being said, Grier would be taking the Pens package, considering that the Canes won’t even make the consideration of offering that package.


    Thank you.
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 1:08 p.m.
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    Sir, this is a Wendy’s

    Quoting: sensonfire
    I'm just trying to get people to answer a simple question.
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    Jul. 11, 2023 at 1:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    Sir, this is a Wendy’s


    Do your parents know you're on the internet?

    They must be worried sick.
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.
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    My parents are dead I’m reporting you, this was triggering for me

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    Do your parents know you're on the internet?

    They must be worried sick.
    Jul. 11, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    My parents are dead I’m reporting you, this was triggering for me


    My condolences.

    In any event, I'm going to guess that you think Carolina offers the return here for EK65 than Pittsburgh.

    Given that you're still whining and complaining over something that has no consequence over your life and your nickname is Hurricane Waddell.

    Mission Accomplished.
     
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