As a Sabres fan, I wouldn’t even make the trade. That seems fair.

Who is Buffalo's starting goalie for next season?

Levi. There’s no good goalies worth trading for.

Most likely, it’s between Luukkonen and Levi, whichever of the two comes to Camp best prepared to be the guy. Although I would expect both of them are going to play 30+ games minimum. Before you poo poo the idea, we all know the real problem was how terrible the defense in front of the goaltenders was. If the Sabres have actually fixed that problem even to a minor degree I think the goaltending will be considerably better as long as they are healthy. No one should be paying the first round pick for Gibson any more than they should be paying a first round pick for Carter Hart.

Gibson is a liability- not an asset. So switch the 1st rounder being traded and maybe then.

Gibson appears to be a liability because of the team in front of him.

I give him the benefit of the doubt.

That's gonna be a no from buffalo

Anaheim needs to display Gibson favorably if they want to get anything for him (coming from a ducks fan). Nobody should be trading for $6m+ Gibson right now.

When ANA puts an NHL caliber defense in front of him and he isn’t facing 50 shots a game all season long, he can show what he’s got and ANA can get something for him after that. Sadly that doesn’t look to be this season

I'm sorry you couldn't understand the question.

It was probably very hard for you.

Sabres had lots of opportunities to sign the abundant of UFA goalies this summer. Right or wrong they seem happy with what they have, or maybe they pick up a waiver 3rd goalie in October. But overpaying for Gibson won't be happening.

As a fan of a division rival, I'm happy that they're happy.

There is no way Adams even considers giving up a 1st round pick in a Gibson deal unless the Ducks are retaining at least 40% of his cap hit.

Even with the 1st off the table and that mediocre return of players going to Anaheim, I still don't think the Sabres would take on the full value of Gibson's contract - especially when the Ducks have the most cap room in the league.

I agree with a lot of this. I expect Clifton to make a much bigger difference than johnson, but having Samuelsson healthy and power a year older should help. Plus likely less time for jokiharju. Be interesting to see if/when granato starts to tell the players that it's time to play defense. Assuming the plan was to let these guys gain confidence by playing an offensive/open game, then gradually introduce more structure with an eye towards winning.
I think comrie and upl are below average, but holy hell our zone was a Chinese fire drill in front of them. Having said that, I expect that comrie and upl will look better, but I'm totally fine with moving on for something that's a significant improvement, provided the cost is reasonable. Not real interested in Gibson, especially at 6m.

Gibson at 50% retained or $3.2M seems palatable, albeit a little high for a backup. Not that it'd be the decision-maker in accepting the trade but at least the Sabres wouldn't have to conduct an annual search for a backup with experience behind Levi for the next 4 seasons. It's hard to know how much treadware Gibson has left with the amount of shots he's faced for so long but then again, Anderson played until 41 after stints in Ottawa and Florida where he was under siege on bad teams.

Assuming his workload could be lightened and thereby he avoids prolonged injuries, I'm lukewarm to Gibson as an option - but any prime prospects or 1st rounders going to Anaheim without significant retention from them is a non-starter IMO. The Ducks could accept table scraps in return for Gibson and I'd still want nothing to do with the full $6.4Mx4 contract.

Lyubushkin/Olofsson for cap purposes
Mid level prospect with a solid chance to make the NHL
Conditional 3rd in 2025, if BUF makes playoffs and Gibson plays 60% of playoff games in next two seasons becomes a 2nd, if they make ECF it becomes a 1st.

Ducks get something for Gibson but BUF doesn’t give up a ton unless he plays well.

With his remaining contract, both the length & the Cap hit pee season, make him too risky
He hasn’t put up good numbers the past FOUR YEARS in a row

If he came at a reasonable price (cheap), then maybe- MAYBE
But there’s just no way the Sabres are gonna pay what Gibson was worth 5 years ago
And the Ducks aren’t likely to sell him off cheap

So this trade just isn’t gonna happen

It’s been 4years of bad numbers
I think it’s fair to say that Gibson is partly to blame for the Ducks being sucky

Good post

Gibson at 50% off is the ONLY way that i would consider him
And even then, I’m not giving up a 1st for him
Highest offer would be something like:
2nd, UPL, mid-level prospect like Kisakov

And i might not even do that

And 50% retained on Gibson
If the trade doesn’t START with that, i wouldn’t even take him for free

Lol you guys just want to live in an alternate reality. But hey good luck with Levi and UPL.

We missed the playoffs by ONE POINT last year, and that was without Levi
Our defense is improved & our young team is developing & getting better

We have a chance

How are the Ducks gonna do this year with Gibson???
Hmmmm….

What kills the idea of the team dragging Gibson's level of play down is they way both Dostal and Stolarz have considerably been outperforming Gibson over the last two seasons playing behind the exact same defence.
I don't think there's any good reason to believe that Gibson is a good goalie at the NHL level at this point in time.

Maaaaaybe there's a workload issue with Gibson given that he's playing a lot of games and taking on a lot of shots in each game.
If you were to cut down on the number of games and shots faced I could see Gibson, at best, having some value as a backup.
But who's gonna pay 6m over the next 4 years for a #2-3 goalie?

Good points
I looked back even further too
Even when Gibson was putting up good stats,
he wasn’t even outperforming Ryan Miller in his late30s

Considering that both Lyubushkin's and Olofsson's cap hits expire next summer while Gibson's continues for another 3 years thereafter, the majority of the financial burden falls on Buffalo, not Anaheim - and they have to give up a player and draft pick on top of assuming that burden. How is that fair from anyone other than a Ducks' fan's perspective?

Likewise, as written, the conditions for the 3rd becoming a 1st is if the Sabres make the ECF - which could happen through no impact of Gibson's whatsoever. Another lopsided advantage for the Ducks in such a proposal.

And you think the Sabres' fan responses are from another reality?