Rebuilding the D

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Created by: Bast

Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2023

Published: Aug. 9, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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There are quite a few assumptions made in the trades, but hopefully I didn't mess it up too badly.

Leafs fans are inlove with Z, so I figured I'd give him to them.

The Sanheim trade was more difficult, but I was looking to take a flyer on a D that struggled last season, and I believe could rebound to replace Hanifin. Coleman is not under a great contract himself, but I wouldn't give up much more for Sanheim at the moment. Ruzicka is an interesting prospect that might not get a good look in CGY. He started the year with ~20 pts in 20 games, but then Sutter happened.

As for the Nashville trade, I know you guys will be reluctant to part with good prospects for Hanifin, but he could really shore up your D after the loss of Ekholm, I'm still upset you guys traded him to EDM. Let me know what you guys think is a fair trade. I'm mostly looking for prospects and futures.

Trades

CGY

TOR

Zadorov, Nikita ($250,000 retained)

CGY

Sanheim, Travis

PHI

CGY

NSH

Additional Details:

Essentially Hanifin for futures. I'm sure Preds fans will be saying it's too much for a rental, but let me know what a trade would look like.

Retained Salary Transactions

Nikita Zadorov: $250,000 (6.67%)

Buried

Kevin Rooney: $150,000 ($1,300,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$76,607,499	$0	$57,500	$6,892,501

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Huberdeau, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8	Kadri, Nazem $7,000,000$7,000,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000$4,850,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Pelletier, Jakob $863,333$863,333 LW RFA - 1	Backlund, Mikael $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Mangiapane, Andrew $5,800,000$5,800,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Dubé, Dillon $2,300,000$2,300,000 LW, RW, C RFA - 1	Pärssinen, Juuso $850,833$850,833 ($57,500$58K) C RFA - 1	Sharangovich, Yegor $3,100,000$3,100,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2
Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Jones, Benjamin $775,000$775,000 C UFA - 1	Duehr, Walker $825,000$825,000 RW UFA - 2
		Schwindt, Cole $855,833$855,833 RW, C RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Weegar, MacKenzie $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 3	Markström, Jacob $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Sanheim, Travis $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Tanev, Christopher $1,125,000$1,125,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Vladar, Daniel $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 2
Kylington, Oliver $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1
	Gilbert, Dennis $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1

Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:04 p.m.

MitchJr

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Leaf fans aren’t in love with Z - some may be, and some think Tre would love to get him but a lot of us think he has size & snarl but he is 3rd pair at best and is overpaid. Just no way they sacrifice Lili for pending UFA

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Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.

Kyle_Okposo_Lover

Josh Anderson Sucks

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Hanifin aint worth that.

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Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.

Bast

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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover

Hanifin aint worth that.

Okay what is he worth?

Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.

Bast

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Quoting: MitchJr

I thought that also helped the Leafs get out of the Jarnkrok contract, giving you more cap space to re-sign your UFA's next off-season. That said, I'll be all for trading you Z for futures, but you don't have the cap-space.

Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:10 p.m.

Ledge_And_Dairy

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Zero chance Coleman is waiving to Philly

Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:11 p.m.

GMDannyB

Danny B is here

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Flyers fans would drive Sanheim there

Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.

MitchJr

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Quoting: Bast

There is a lot of chatter that Leafs are desperate to move salary. I am no insider but I don’t see it; they start season with 20 man roster (one of the strongest in the league btw) and use waiver exempt marlies and LTIR if injuries occur. Jarnkrok popped 20 goals, played well higher up in lineup when needed and was really good defensively . At$2.1M per - they are in no hurry to dump that contract

Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:13 p.m.

Kyle_Okposo_Lover

Josh Anderson Sucks

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Quoting: Bast

Okay what is he worth?

Not Kemell. Hes an A prospect. Idk for sure but maybe a Schaefer and 3rd or so. But Nasvhille likely isnt buying rn but a B prospect and mid pick seems likely

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Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.

KingExLeafs

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Zadorov is not worth that

Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.

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villenash

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NSH has no room or interest in Hanifin. They already have Josi, McDonagh, and Lauzon on the left side signed long-term. And they especially aren’t giving up one of their best, if not the best, RW prospect they have + another good looking, young player.

Hanifin isn’t going to get a top prospect from any team. B prospect + 2nd or something is what I see. Maybe just a 1st if some GM is desperate.

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Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.

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Bast

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Quoting: KingExLeafs

Zadorov is not worth that

It's funny because I just used a similar trade proposal to what a bunch of Leafs fans were posting.

Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.

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Bast

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Quoting: villenash

It could be just my opinion, but McDonagh is slowing down every year. If you think he can remain a top 4 D for the next 3 years, that's great. As for Lauzon, he's a #5D in my eyes, not a #2 like Hanifin.

I guess we'll see what Hanifin gets, but the point was to sell him for futures, younger players while bringing in Sanheim from PHI.

Aug. 9, 2023 at 9:34 p.m.

#13

PantsOffnJacket

Fire J.D. too

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Leafs trade is just so bad.

One guy had 40pts last year(20goals) and the other is a young top4 RD with top 2 potential still.

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Aug. 9, 2023 at 10:07 p.m.

#14

herzausstein

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Hanafin doesnt make sense for Nashville unless he is near free. Two big LHD contracts already with Josi and McDonagh. Josi with a NMC McDonagh with a contract that basically makes him unmovable. Giving up large assets so we can have a 6 million dollar 3rd pairing dman just doesnt work out.

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Aug. 9, 2023 at 10:30 p.m.

#15

AEcho

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Quoting: Bast

I won't disagree that McDouagh is slowing down, but he isn't a slouch by any means. In 3 years time he will need to be replaced, but it isn't a need now. The bigger issue for NSH is that there is already has a logjam at defense and acquiring Hanfin just makes that worse. McDonagh already has his replacement in system in one of Statsney, Del Gaizo, or even Moleyndk, the former two saw NHL time last year due to injuries and played well, and with more time at the NHL level would be serviceable at a minimum.

Asking NSH to trade arguably their top prospect and one of the few strong finishing forwards AND one of the future core centers, a position that NSH is already horribly weak at, for a defenseman they don't really need is just a bad deal for NSH.

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Aug. 9, 2023 at 10:33 p.m.

#16

The_Lanny

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1 Lilly and a 2nd for Z at 50% would be my offer to them

2 Ruzicka has to stay with us, so no.

3 Nashville turns that down easily

Aug. 9, 2023 at 10:40 p.m.

#17

palhal

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Quoting: MitchJr

Gee, Lily and Jarnkrok cost 3.5 total. What's the sense in having 3.75m....or even retained Zaradov. I don't understand all the love for the Flames Dmen. Yikes 24m for a middling defensive team.

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Aug. 9, 2023 at 11:04 p.m.

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villenash

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Quoting: Bast

I don’t disagree on McDonagh— I don’t think he has been the same defenseman in NSH that he was with TBL, but he has a big salary and a NMC. So NSH is stuck with him for better or worse— they don’t have the room or money to spend on Hanifin.

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