No to every one of those

Ur trading away a lot to replace ceci with petry that’s very bad asset management

broberg for petry ain't it

Devils don't have room for Foegele

Hawks don't want ceci and that petry trade is terrible for Edmonton

Hawks decline

Ceci>>>Petry

Think about what you will send to Chicago along with Ceci if you want that deal to happen, they aren’t taking him off the Oilers hands out of the kindness of their hearts.

That’s stupid. Ceci is actually good and could so easily be flipped into a pile of picks with very little risk. The only risk is not having a spot for a random AHL defenseman

I actually think that finding a way to replace Ceci with Petry is a great move, especially at 50% retained.
That being said, paying The price of Foegle, Broberg, Ceci, a 2nd, and a 3rd probably doesn't make the team any better.

All things being equal, I love the effort that went into this.

They aren't paying a early 3rd rounder to take that risk, sorry

Broberg would be enough

It’s not a risk lmfao

First of all it’s gonna be a mid 3rd. Second, you hold him for a year then retention at 50% for a RD of his caliber easily gets a 2nd++

That’s just flat out stupid asset management. Ceci had really good analytics, could help your younger guys develop and learn and is almost guaranteed to gain value. Third rounders almost never make the nhl and rarely reach 200 games, come on bro

Devils have 1.9m in cap space how is 2.7m gonna fit in. I swear ppl refuse to understand how capspace works. Too man brainless ppl out here. Plus the Devils DONT WANT HIM.

Clearly he didn't check Chicago's RHD.

Ceci is worth more than a 3rd, you're quite right about that. But this trade only works for Chicago if they trade Ceci elsewhere for more than they paid - and if they could do that, why wouldn't Edmonton go direct?

Chicago has Jones, Murphy and Zaitsev playing RHD, that's why they don't want another. Ceci would be an upgrade on Zaitsev at least, but they aren't trying to be competitive.

Well there’s no problem then, the Oilers should be able to easily find some one else to take him.

The Hawks meanwhile have Jones, Murphy, Tinordi and Zaitsev as their veterans and will rotate a few of their young d-men so they can start to figure out who they can move forward with. Guys like Vlasic, Philips, Kaiser and Roos will all get significant time this year.

Now if another team wants to “entice” the Hawks to assist with their cap situation then Chicago may be inclined to do so but it will cost the other team.

Lmao tinordi is horrific and Zaitsev sucks.

Roos and Phillips are crappy prospects as well, Kaiser isn’t anything more than a depth guy so that only leaves vlasic.

It’s okay to be overly excited for your teams prospects but those guys aren’t special. Get excited over Nazar, Korchinski, Vlasic, Commesso, Bedard, Moore, etc.

But those other guys are quite literally crappy prospects who will never reach 200 games, if even 50. Sorry to break it to ya.

Trust me I’d love to say Eetu Liukas is a significant prospect but he’s not. We all do it

Ceci has traditionally been a liability. Hawks aren't going to play him heavy minutes...he would be behind Jones and Murphy, and Ceci on a bad team will be awful because of his defensive zone liability traditionally speaking. Hawks have too many players to flip, they aren't paying to acquire another one...that is stupid...when they can pick up guys for free.

I thought this was posted by a Flames fan trolling Edmonton until I checked the posters name.

Please read what I said and not what you want to believe I said. At no point did I claim whether any of the prospects mentioned were “significant”. I am merely pointing out how the roster will be constructed and utilized.

My assessment of the prospects is pretty much as you stated with the one exception being Kaiser. My opinion is Vlasic has the potential to be a middle pairing defensive d-man. Philips and Roos are in my opinion organizational depth guys, # 7 or 8 guys who will bounce up and down between Rockford and Chicago. Kaiser is the wild card but I would love for you to enlighten us all with your amazing talent evaluation skills and point to specific attributes of his game that make you so confident he is a “crappy prospect”. I mean you were able to identify that Tinordi and Zaitsev “suck” which is next level talent evaluating. So what was it you saw in all 9 of Kaiser’s pro game experience that has you writing him off as crappy?

Oh, and thanks for telling me who I can or can’t get excited about, not sure what I would have done without your direction, I mean you did select a handful of 1at and 2nd round picks so….

Youre so upset its sad.

Im not gonna write a 10 paragraph essay for you. If you genuinely cared about my evaluation, i glaldy would but you dont.

I never told you what to do. Im telling you the truth. I told you that you have a lot of guys who are exciting prospects, and then a lot of guys who arent. And I said that you shouldnt waste your time caring about Roos or Kaiser because they arent gonna win you a cup, just like that 3rd wont be the reason you do either.

And my entire point is that not moving a mid 3rd which has a very low chance of becoming anything for Ceci who very easily could be flipped into something that does have an impact is just bad asset management. It just is. Look at what McCabe got, then look at their advanced metrics, then look at contract and then positional value. Then look at the fact that Chicago has a lot of cap space with a lot of money coming off of the books soon as well, meaning that now is the best possible time to acquire a player like Ceci

And its funny I never even said they should do it for a 3rd, the OP did. I think if they needed to move a 3rd they should, but you guys are out here saying they need to be paid to do this. Thats insane. A 5th/6th would likely be possible given Edmonton's cap disaster. So if youre gonna say you wouldnt move a 6th for him then just block me lol

Not upset at all, just wanted to prove the point that you can’t accurately evaluate the Blackhawks prospects because you really haven’t watched them play, which is why you stated “I’m not going to write a ten paragraph essay for you” and then proceeded to write an essay.

Have a wonderful night.

LMAO dude im a prospect loser ive watched over 500 prospects, including roos and kaiser. Thus why for the past 3 years ive put on this website 225-300 top prospects rankings (literally check my profile)

Im not gonna write an essay for someone like you who is blinded by bias!

OK, you said it and who am I to argue with you, you are a “prospect loser”. We finally agree on something!

Moving forward we should probably just ignore each other “dude”.

We didnt agree that Nazar is a great prospect? I had him top 7 in the class and I still have him top 7. Korchinski is gonna be a beast. Del Mastro and Commesso are also both very high upside prospects.

All four of those players were great value picks who I believe will pan out really frickin well. Thats stuff we agreed on. My entire point was that its dumb to play AHL caliber guys over an established player who can/will help a Korchinkski, Vlasic, etc play and return positive assets. Its a game of asset management.

If mccabe got all of that, ceci absolutely could as well. So moving a mid to late pick would be a very smart idea. That is all!