He is not a top five center in the league. Not yet anyway. I understand he finished in the top ten last year and I'm well aware of his two-way game, but he's not top five yet. Top 10? Absolutely.

If he is available it is because he refuses to sign long term in Vancouver.

How many teams are

A.) Good

B.) Have cap space

Factor in Pettersson can simply go to arbitration and walk to UFA and you are not getting the lindros/Gretzky type return you think you are

Bear in mind he's the Canucks top center and the package should probably include a top 6 center (or at least capable of) coming back the other way. Your cast offs wont get it done.

The Sharks prospect pool is extremely shallow right now.

If Petey isn't happy in Vancouver, he's not going to be happy in Columbus, Montreal and San Jose.

Who else would you put above him? I have Mcdavid, Mackinnon, Drisaital, Matthews, and then have Petey tied with Hughes. I am not taking Thompson, Eichel, Hintz, Barkov, Crosby, point, or Aho over him. He was #3 on the ESPN board this year and was #4 ppg last year, I think 5 is a reasonable ranking.

Canucks can elect ARB and deal, same thing happened with Tkachuck

You are right but its who would be willing to pay/ who I have seen trying to buy

While having Petey would probably be exciting and speed up process, I think the Habs would rather continue the rebuild. I'm not sure it's really smart to empty our prospect pool / top picks for 1 player. (I know Petey is solid)

We would be looking at what?

Dach
Guhle
Barron
1st MTL 2024
1st CGY 2025

Something like that?

I don't think it make sense for the Habs considering we pretty far from competing for a cup. We still don't have a 1st goalie.

Reinbacher would have to be included, he is the starter piece.

from columbus:
- sillinger
- marchenko
- choice of boqvist/peeke
- 2024 1st*
- 2025 1st (unprotected)

*if 2024 pick lands in top 3, this converts to a 2026 unprotected pick

Hughes for sure. I totally get why people think it's close, but Hughes is far ahead of where Pettersson was at his age. I'd also point Point ahead of Pettersson or at the very least tied.

Pretty sure he's not moving, or it would've made no sense to draft him in the first place instead of Michkov/Benson, also we could've just got a RD in this draft instead. 2024

Doesn’t do it, you want the top centre, you have to trade your top centre prospect. Fantilli has to be a piece of the trade, this will bring down the amount of stuff you have to add but he has to be in it

It would depend then on the 24 pick placement, if it is top 3 that would be one thing, but if MTL makes progression then it wouldn’t be worth it.

I would disagree, I think that the age difference is not enough to move Hughes above him, Point is a good player, but look at his supporting cast.

I truly dislike arguments like that (supporting cast). I get they do have validity in certain contexts, but not this one.

Look at Pettersson's numbers two years ago when he was 22 and compare them to Hughes (22) now. Massive difference. This past year Hughes and Pettersson were almost statistically tied in points with Hughes getting the better of goal-scoring.

As far as their defensive games go. Hughes is also ahead of where Pettersson was at 22. Barring injuries to either play, Hughes likely will leapfrog Pettersson this year.

Possibly, i don't know for sure. I feel like habs would have some sort of protection with the pick. To be honest though, I doubt MTL & VAN are good trade partners for Petey, both teams should be looking at rebuilding. Montreal is already rebuilding and should keep going that way for at least this and next season, not move their 1sts and instead add some.

For Vancouver, can't say I know what they need but it seems like they've made a lot of meh decisions with their picks lately. Petey could indeed help getting some picks and prospects however i might see Buffalo as a better trade partner. They have more impactful fwd prospects than us, that's for sure.

Possibly, But Buff already has a #1C, but cousins could be a good piece to look at

I dont think that you can say that for sure, I would argue the supporting cast role again but if you dont agree with that I would say that Petey is better defensively. Petey was injured his age 22 year and he was also in a pandemic, so I think that it is not out of the question to ask why he wasn’t lighting it up. I think that the best thing to go off of will be coming up this year. Hughes was feasting on the PP this year, and didnt show up on the PK score sheet where Petey scored less on the power play, showing that he has more to give, and scored on the PK.

lmao. you can set the bar as high as you want, but no one is going to meet that type of ask. if you insist on fantilli, you're eliminating the bidder that has arguably the deepest bag of assets.

at some point you have to take the best offer on the table. otherwise you're gonna be left holding the bag when petey hits UFA. good luck.

Incorrect - we will be a top 10 pool by the end of the year and are already banging on the door of being one

Look at Point’s numbers two years ago when he was 24 and compare them to Pettersson (24) now. Massive difference. This past year Pettersson was also statistically better than Point in points

As far as their defensive games go, Pettersson is also better than Point

Devil wont be in on petey. They have other mouths to feed.

I'll give you everything

Top 8 C imo with 1 year of control.

Assuming a 7x10 extension I'd pay about 32 mill in surplus value for pettersson worth about 13.5 mill

So 1st, Holtz, Mercer would be it.

1st=6 mill (monahan price)
Holtz=10 mill. (4 mill player at 1 mill the next 2 years+an RFA bridge of 1 mill surplus value the next 4)
mercer=16 mill (7 mill player at 1 mill this year and a RFA bridge of 2 mill surplus value the next 4)

Mercer might be higher, Holtz lower but overall works out