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Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 13, 2023
Published: Nov. 13, 2023
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I have listed a bunch of options below...pick your preference, but I believe, in the whole, they should give an idea of type of market there could be for Zadorov.


11/8/23: Zach Bogosian...for...7th
8/18/23: Ilya Lyubushkin...for...4th
8/15/23: Jeff Petry (50% retained)...for...Gustav Lindstrom/4th
7/1/23: Joel Edmundson (50% retained)..for...3rd, 7th
7/1/23: Colin Miller...for...5th

3/3/23: John Klingberg (50% retained)...for...Nikita Nesterenko, 4th
2/28/23: Luke Schenn...for...3rd
2/26/23: Jack Johnson...for...Andreas Englund
2/5/23: Jaycob Megna...for...4th
10/28/22: Ethan Bear (18% retained, with Lane Pederson)...for...5th

3/21/22: Nathan Beaulieu...for...7th
3/21/22: Justin Braun...for...3rd
3/20/22: Travis Hamonic...for...3rd
3/20/22: Robert Hagg...for...6th
7/28/21: Nikita Zadorov...for...3rd

4/12/21: Erik Gudbranson ....for....Brandon Fortunato, 7th
4/12/21: Ben Hutton...for...5th
4/12/21: Dmitry Kulikov...for...4th
4/12/21: Jordie Benn...for...6th
4/12/21: Jani Hakanpaa/6th...for...Haydn Fleury

4/11/21: Braydon Coburn...for....7th
4/9/21: Patrik Nemeth....for...4th
1/19/21: Ian Cole...for...Greg Pateryn
10/8/20: Erik Gudbranson ....for....5th
10/8/20: Ryan Murray....for....5th

10/2/20: Joshua Brown...for...4th
2/24/20: Derek Forbort (25% retained)...for...4th
2/18/20: Marco Scandella (50% retained)...for....2nd
2/18/20: Brenden Dillon (50% retained)...for...2nd, 3rd
1/2/20: Marco Scandella...for....4th

2/25/19: Michael Del Zotto...for...6th
2/25/19: Adam McQuaid...for...Julius Bergman, 4th, 7th
2/23/19: Ben Lovejoy...for...Connor Carrick, 3rd
1/17/19: Luke Schenn (with 7th)...for...Michael Del Zotto
2/9/19: Christian Folin (18% retained)...for...David Schlemko, Byron Froese

12/30/18: Alex Petrovic...for...Chris Wideman, 3rd
12/30/18: Brandon Manning (with Robin Norell)...for...Jason Garrison, Drake Caggiula
9/11/18: Adam McQuaid...for...Steven Kampfer, 4th, 7th
2/20/18: Nick Holden...for...Rob O'Gara, 3rd
12/30/17: Dalton Prout...for...Eddie Lack

2/28/17: Johnny Oduya....for....Mark McNeill, 4th
2/23/17: Ron Hainsey (50%)...for...Danny Kristo, 2nd
2/20/17: Michael Stone...for...3rd
2/15/17: Tom Gilbert (20% retained)...for...conditional 5th
2/26/16: Christian Ehrhoff (15% retained)...for...Rob Scuderi

2/23/16: Mike Weber...for...3rd
6/27/15: Eric Gryba...for...Travis Ewanyk, 4th
3/5/14: Rostislav Klesla (with Michal Neuvirth)...for..Jaroslav Halak, 3rd


But one factor with Zadorov that limits return is that he has publicly *asked for a trade*. So looking at comps of players who have done the same

11/8/23: Zach Bogosian...for...7th
8/15/23: Jeff Petry (50%)...for...Gustav Lindstrom, 4th
2/5/23: Jaycob Megna...for...4th
2/26/23: Jack Johnson...for...Englund
2/17/17: Jordie Benn...for Greg Pateryn, 4th


Or looking at in-season rentals of big, bottom-pair dmen with similar contracts, age, playing time and stats

7/1/23: Joel Edmundson (50% retained)..for...3rd, 7th
4/12/21: Erik Gudbranson ....for....Fortunato, 7th
4/9/21: Patrik Nemeth....for...4th
10/8/20: Erik Gudbranson ....for....5th
1/2/20: Marco Scandella...for....4th


Or...just go with this one....

7/28/21: Nikita Zadorov...for...3rd
Trades
1.
CGY
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
  2. 2025 7th round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Comp: 2021 Joel Edmundson
TOR
    Nikita Zadorov at 50%
    2.
    CGY
    1. Hoefenmayer, Noel
    2. 2025 7th round pick (EDM)
    Additional Details:
    Comp: 2021 Erik Gudbranson
    EDM
      Nikita Zadorov
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      CGY
      1. 2024 4th round pick (VAN)
      Additional Details:
      Comp: 2021 Patrik Nemeth
      VAN
        Nikita Zadorov
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        CGY
        1. 2024 5th round pick (MIN)
        Additional Details:
        Comp 2020 Erik Gudbranson
        MIN
          Nikita Zadorov
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          CGY
          1. 2024 4th round pick (BUF)
          Additional Details:
          Comp: 2020 Marco Scandella
          BUF
            Nikita Zadorov
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            CGY
            1. 2025 3rd round pick (OTT)
            Additional Details:
            Comp: 2021 Nikita Zadorov
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
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              You damn Leafs fan you.
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 10:35 a.m.
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              Leafs accept but would like to add another 3rd and klingberg ideally
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 10:42 a.m.
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              The last comp was my favourite.
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.
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              I think straight up for a 3rd round pick would be fair right now. But I think they get at least a second at the TDL. I’d wait honestly. Several top contenders will pay. TB likes to pay up.
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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              Solid work.
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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              Quoting: Kinger25
              Leafs accept but would like to add another 3rd and klingberg ideally


              I have a feeling the way this trade works is that Klingberg is added rather than the Flames retaining on Zadorov. Flames will want to keep their retention slots for the bigger, more valuable assets and Klingberg is the cost of doing business to make the cap work if they aren't retaining.
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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              Why not have Chiarot and Savard in your comps, or Ristolainen and Kulak?

              Also small clarification on Petry: MTL didn't get Lindstrom + 4th when he asked for a trade, they got Matheson and a 4th for Petry and Poehling. The Lindstrom trade was more a GM doing a vet a solid by sending him to his ideal destination regardless of the return.
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:15 a.m.
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              I'm surprised that you (of all people) didn't list 04/11/21 Jonas Siegenthaler for a third.
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 11:39 a.m.
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              I think the Kulak-to-Edmonton deal that was made with Montreal is good precedent for Zadorov, trade request be damned.

              Full retention for a second round pick and a live body. Everyone walks away with what they want.
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.
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              Well researched. Kudos Fan!
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 1:14 p.m.
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              Quoting: OldNYIfan
              I'm surprised that you (of all people) didn't list 04/11/21 Jonas Siegenthaler for a third.


              I had it, but since he was RFA-to-be, younger, and had way less playing time/experience, it was hard comp to make.

              (could be better fit for Kylington trade comp)
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 1:16 p.m.
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              You damn Leafs fan you.


              I'm a Devils fan
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 1:19 p.m.
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              That's a deal I can live with. Just have to work out the cap issues.
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
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              Quoting: LumberJacques
              Why not have Chiarot and Savard in your comps, or Ristolainen and Kulak?

              Also small clarification on Petry: MTL didn't get Lindstrom + 4th when he asked for a trade, they got Matheson and a 4th for Petry and Poehling. The Lindstrom trade was more a GM doing a vet a solid by sending him to his ideal destination regardless of the return.


              So, in other words, why isn't Zadorov getting a 1st round pick plus?

              -- Savard was a solid dman back then and was #3 in Columbus. He was also part of three-way trade and was double-retained...so a good part of his return was baked into the salary savings.

              -- Chiarot was an odd trade as he was Montreal's #1 in 2022, but was an analytics mess...many teams were not bullish, but he was dealt between two clubs that were not data-driven teams. And generally seen as poor trade.

              -- Risto trade is generally seen as one of the worst trades in recent times. But like Chiarot, he was #1 in ice time, was traded between two clubs that didn't manage with analytics. Also, Chuck Fletcher is terrible GM.

              All of these were also outliers....
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 2:36 p.m.
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              So, in other words, why isn't Zadorov getting a 1st round pick plus?

              -- Savard was a solid dman back then and was #3 in Columbus. He was also part of three-way trade and was double-retained...so a good part of his return was baked into the salary savings.

              -- Chiarot was an odd trade as he was Montreal's #1 in 2022, but was an analytics mess...many teams were not bullish, but he was dealt between two clubs that were not data-driven teams. And generally seen as poor trade.

              -- Risto trade is generally seen as one of the worst trades in recent times. But like Chiarot, he was #1 in ice time, was traded between two clubs that didn't manage with analytics. Also, Chuck Fletcher is terrible GM.

              All of these were also outliers....

              IF Zadorov gets Traded; I think you’re going to be very surprised what he returns 50-75% retained, especially given the interest he’s garnering and the fact he’s Faster, Bigger and Better than MTL’s Chiarot and CLB’s Savard

              Edmundson = Injury Prone and therefore Unreliable
              Schenn/Bogosian = Old, Slow, Can’t Score
              Lyubushkin = Smaller, Slow, Can’t Score
              Klingberg/Petry/Gustaffson = Not Comparables
              Braun/Hamonic/Hagg/J.Johnson/Benn = Not Good/Washed
              Megna/Bear/Nemeth/Hakanpaa/Gudbranson = Not Good

              Most of your Comparables are simply warm bodies brought in for depth and injury insurance. Just because we play Big-Z on our 3rd Pairing a lot of the Time doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be a 2LD on most NHL Teams
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 2:56 p.m.
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              Quoting: KingofRnR
              IF Zadorov gets Traded; I think you’re going to be very surprised what he returns 50-75% retained, especially given the interest he’s garnering and the fact he’s Faster, Bigger and Better than MTL’s Chiarot and CLB’s Savard

              Edmundson = Injury Prone and therefore Unreliable
              Schenn/Bogosian = Old, Slow, Can’t Score
              Lyubushkin = Smaller, Slow, Can’t Score
              Klingberg/Petry/Gustaffson = Not Comparables
              Braun/Hamonic/Hagg/J.Johnson/Benn = Not Good/Washed
              Megna/Bear/Nemeth/Hakanpaa/Gudbranson = Not Good

              Most of your Comparables are simply warm bodies brought in for depth and injury insurance. Just because we play Big-Z on our 3rd Pairing a lot of the Time doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be a 2LD on most NHL Teams


              Zadorov plays 3rd pair on team that ranks 27th in goals allowed

              How do you get Z as 2LD on most teams? I would see him as 3LD on most teams....

              Would be 2LD: ARI, CHI, DET, PHI, SJS
              Would be 3LD: ANA, BOS, CBJ, COL, EDM, FLA, LAK, MIN, MTL NYI, PIT, STL, TOR, VAN, WSH
              Would be 4LD: BUF, CAR, DAL, NJD, NYR, OTT, SEA, TBL, VGK, WPG

              (a few of teams where he'd be 4LD play a LD on right side, like Buffalo, Dallas, Jersey, Vegas, Winnipeg)

              Only found 5 teams where he may play 2LD (and couple of those may be debatable). None are buyers.
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 3:15 p.m.
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              Zadorov plays 3rd pair on team that ranks 27th in goals allowed

              How do you get Z as 2LD on most teams? I would see him as 3LD on most teams....

              Would be 2LD: ARI, CHI, DET, PHI, SJS
              Would be 3LD: ANA, BOS, CBJ, COL, EDM, FLA, LAK, MIN, MTL NYI, PIT, STL, TOR, VAN, WSH
              Would be 4LD: BUF, CAR, DAL, NJD, NYR, OTT, SEA, TBL, VGK, WPG

              (a few of teams where he'd be 4LD play a LD on right side, like Buffalo, Dallas, Jersey, Vegas, Winnipeg)

              Only found 5 teams where he may play 2LD (and couple of those may be debatable). None are buyers.

              Yes, CGY’s struggling this year, but we’re talking about Zadorov, who’s not and not CGY’s Defence as a whole

              You just listed 25/32 Teams you could see Zadorov filling a spot on and we know there’s already interest in him from TOR, NJD, BOS, VAN with more to come I would gather

              I could easily see him at 2LD on TOR, LAK, FLA, NYI, VAN, STL, WSH contributing 0.30-0.50PPG too, so that’s 12/32.

              Okay, you’re right, I’m off by 5 Teams, my bad
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 3:37 p.m.
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              Quoting: KingofRnR
              Yes, CGY’s struggling this year, but we’re talking about Zadorov, who’s not and not CGY’s Defence as a whole

              You just listed 25/32 Teams you could see Zadorov filling a spot on and we know there’s already interest in him from TOR, NJD, BOS, VAN with more to come I would gather

              I could easily see him at 2LD on TOR, LAK, FLA, NYI, VAN, STL, WSH contributing 0.30-0.50PPG too, so that’s 12/32.

              Okay, you’re right, I’m off by 5 Teams, my bad


              I'll give you WSH only because Fehervary is hurt...

              Otherwise, I stand by everything else I said previously....and my list of comps.
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              I'll give you WSH only because Fehervary is hurt...

              Otherwise, I stand by everything else I said previously....and my list of comps.

              You do that, it’s your Fantasy Thread after all, but you’re undervaluing Zadorov and not taking in to consideration the demand for him and his unique attributes and I’m confident you’ll be surprised how far off you are on this one

              Just like Diamonds & Gold are both desirable and valuable, so is Nikita Zadorov. He’s improved substantially from when we acquired him from CHI for a 3rd and the reason his Snake of an Agent put out that tweet is because they feel he deserves more ice time and a spot in the Top-4 and on the PP; it’s purely a negotiation tactic at this point and Conroy didn’t bite and has walked way from the table, so we’ll see how this plays out

              Soucy’s injured now too btw and Ian Cole is a 3LD, so give me VAN too
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 4:04 p.m.
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              Quoting: Lancebmx
              The last comp was my favourite.


              It comes full circle
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 4:18 p.m.
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              Quoting: KingofRnR
              You do that, it’s your Fantasy Thread after all, but you’re undervaluing Zadorov and not taking in to consideration the demand for him and his unique attributes and I’m confident you’ll be surprised how far off you are on this one

              Just like Diamonds & Gold are both desirable and valuable, so is Nikita Zadorov. He’s improved substantially from when we acquired him from CHI for a 3rd and the reason his Snake of an Agent put out that tweet is because they feel he deserves more ice time and a spot in the Top-4 and on the PP; it’s purely a negotiation tactic at this point and Conroy didn’t bite and has walked way from the table, so we’ll see how this plays out


              Diamonds, Gold, Zadorov
              Okay...we shall see.

              Sounds like he has been locker room problem to me.
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 4:23 p.m.
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              So, in other words, why isn't Zadorov getting a 1st round pick plus?

              -- Savard was a solid dman back then and was #3 in Columbus. He was also part of three-way trade and was double-retained...so a good part of his return was baked into the salary savings.

              -- Chiarot was an odd trade as he was Montreal's #1 in 2022, but was an analytics mess...many teams were not bullish, but he was dealt between two clubs that were not data-driven teams. And generally seen as poor trade.

              -- Risto trade is generally seen as one of the worst trades in recent times. But like Chiarot, he was #1 in ice time, was traded between two clubs that didn't manage with analytics. Also, Chuck Fletcher is terrible GM.

              All of these were also outliers....


              IMO the reason these players were getting so much ice was the weakness of their teams' defense. None of the players I mentioned had an Andersson, Weegar or Hannifin ahead of them on the depth chart at the time they were traded.

              Regardless of ice time (which is largely driven by teammate quality) I still maintain that all of Chiarot, Savard, Kulak, Ristolainen, Zadorov and even maybe Gavrikov (though his trade is more complicated because of Korpisalo being part of it) can be claimed to have more in common through their role as big and rugged number 4/5 defensive defensemen than Zadorov has with the likes of Benn, Folin, Josh Brown, Beaulieu, Coburn (in 2021), Del Zotto, Gilbert, Manning and Jack Johnson (most of whom were depth defensemen in their last or second-to-last year in the NHL) and therefore are fully worthy of inclusion in this list of comparables for Zadorov.
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              Nov. 13, 2023 at 4:27 p.m.
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              Quoting: LumberJacques
              IMO the reason these players were getting so much ice was the weakness of their teams' defense. None of the players I mentioned had an Andersson, Weegar or Hannifin ahead of them on the depth chart at the time they were traded.

              Regardless of ice time (which is largely driven by teammate quality) I still maintain that all of Chiarot, Savard, Kulak, Ristolainen, Zadorov and even maybe Gavrikov (though his trade is more complicated because of Korpisalo being part of it) can be claimed to have more in common through their role as big and rugged number 4/5 defensive defensemen than Zadorov has with the likes of Benn, Folin, Josh Brown, Beaulieu, Coburn (in 2021), Del Zotto, Gilbert, Manning and Jack Johnson (most of whom were depth defensemen in their last or second-to-last year in the NHL) and therefore are fully worthy of inclusion in this list of comparables for Zadorov.


              Savard...maybe....but I cannot add Chiarot and Risto trades as they are generally seen has two of the worst trades for dmen

              So you think he returns a 1st round pick plus. It seems there are a bunch of people that agree with you.

              My money is still on mid pick.
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 4:34 p.m.
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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              Diamonds, Gold, Zadorov
              Okay...we shall see.

              Sounds like he has been locker room problem to me.
              I am hoping my team doesn't bid.

              In what sense has Zadorov been a problem in the locker room!?

              Because he stepped up and blasted some of the guys publicly for not putting fourth proper effort and playing like individuals and for themselves instead of a cohesive unit and team!? Because some guys aren’t sure whether they want to remain Calgary Flames and only care about their next upcoming contract and/or are butt hurt over how much Huberdough got paid!!!

              Zadorov is the only guy to openly show any form of passion or interest to play for The City of Calgary and the Flames Organization. He’s said he’d love to be a Flame FOR LIFE (including the game after the Trade Request rumours came out) and Ownership/Management hasn’t properly rewarded him for that.

              His Bonehead absolute Snake of an Agent thought it would be a good idea and help negotiations by suggesting he might be better served going elsewhere if he wasn’t going to be promoted when clearly Hanifin & Weegar have been struggling, as if he had any leverage. Conroy balked at that btw and Zadorov has been clear they’re discussing it if he’s not going to be offered a contract, properly valued and rewarded for his passion and play

              That sounds like a Leader to me. I would strip Backlund of the C and slap it on Zadorov immediately if he were to Fire his Agent and sign long-term. I’d also strip the A’s off of a Lindholm, Huberdeau and Tanev and then Trade out Lindholm, Backlund, Hanifin & Tanev straight away.

              The Flames need to rid themselves of any cry baby’s and whiny entitled losers in favour of guys who want to be and play there. Andersson keeps his A, but give the others to Coleman & Kadri and leave the other open for Weegar or Huberdeau to EARN
              Nov. 13, 2023 at 4:39 p.m.
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              TrevorA
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              Quoting: LumberJacques
              IMO the reason these players were getting so much ice was the weakness of their teams' defense. None of the players I mentioned had an Andersson, Weegar or Hannifin ahead of them on the depth chart at the time they were traded.

              Regardless of ice time (which is largely driven by teammate quality) I still maintain that all of Chiarot, Savard, Kulak, Ristolainen, Zadorov and even maybe Gavrikov (though his trade is more complicated because of Korpisalo being part of it) can be claimed to have more in common through their role as big and rugged number 4/5 defensive defensemen than Zadorov has with the likes of Benn, Folin, Josh Brown, Beaulieu, Coburn (in 2021), Del Zotto, Gilbert, Manning and Jack Johnson (most of whom were depth defensemen in their last or second-to-last year in the NHL) and therefore are fully worthy of inclusion in this list of comparables for Zadorov.

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              Quoting: NHLfan10506
              Savard...maybe....but I cannot add Chiarot and Risto trades as they are generally seen has two of the worst trades for dmen

              So you think he returns a 1st round pick plus. It seems there are a bunch of people that agree with you.

              My money is still on mid pick.

              Is that with or without retention though and did you include the sweetener to ensure your Team wins the Zadorov sweepstakes over the other handful of GMs salivating over him!?
               
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