SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Bolstering the forward group

Created by: Boos
Team: 2023-24 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 19, 2023
Published: Dec. 19, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
BUF
  1. Jenner, Boone
Additional Details:
Yeah, he's injured and sure enough he has an 8-team no-trade clause, but when he's back and if he's willing, I like the idea of Jenner on the club.
CBJ
  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (BUF)
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
2025
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the MIN
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the NSH
2026
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
Logo of the BUF
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$75,285,237$0$4,807,500$8,214,763
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$7,100,000$7,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$855,833$855,833 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$3,750,000$3,750,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,500,000$2,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$916,667$916,667 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$837,500$837,500
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$3,333,333$3,333,333
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$1,800,000$1,800,000 ($650,000$650K$650,000$650K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$1,850,000$1,850,000 ($700,000$700K$700,000$700K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Dec. 19, 2023 at 8:01 a.m.
#1
not a he )
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2022
Posts: 3,183
Likes: 4,312
And as soon as the rest of the league catches wind he might be available, this gets blown out of the water. He's a unicorn.
BoomerTheHero, SK101, gretzkyghosts and 2 others liked this.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 8:52 a.m.
#2
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2017
Posts: 8,259
Likes: 6,242
I think he would cost a lot more
gretzkyghosts and Hockey_Soul liked this.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 9:10 a.m.
#3
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1,959
Likes: 783
Quoting: squashmaple
And as soon as the rest of the league catches wind he might be available, this gets blown out of the water. He's a unicorn.


I wouldn’t say he’s a unicorn at all, he’s a third line centre that plays physical. Those aren’t THAT rare.

I do agree that this offer isn’t enough, solely based on the fact that Krebs doesn’t have much value and needs a change of scenery. But I also don’t think Jenner would have an extremely high return either
gretzkyghosts liked this.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 9:12 a.m.
#4
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 3,151
Likes: 2,830
Jenner is the captain of the jackets and their best forward overall. He is great at faceoffs and was 2nd in 5v5 goals in the NHL before he took a puck to the face. Going to cost more, both for the jackets to be willing to trade him and if he is put on the trading block that offer gets blown out of the water.
gretzkyghosts and CaseyFlyman liked this.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 9:14 a.m.
#5
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 3,151
Likes: 2,830
Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
I wouldn’t say he’s a unicorn at all, he’s a third line centre that plays physical. Those aren’t THAT rare.

I do agree that this offer isn’t enough, solely based on the fact that Krebs doesn’t have much value and needs a change of scenery. But I also don’t think Jenner would have an extremely high return either


He’s a Bo Horvat type player on a contract that costs half for this season and the next two. These are the types of players GMs drool over at the deadline. The return would be huge especially if the jackets half retain
hopefullynextyear, gretzkyghosts, CaseyFlyman and 1 other person liked this.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 9:19 a.m.
#6
Avatar of the user
Joined: Oct. 2022
Posts: 2,766
Likes: 1,006
That conversation goes something like this.
GMKA:Jarmo got a trade for you says above.
GMKA: Seriously Kevyn what do you want ? Please tell me you aren't wasting my time with this.
gretzkyghosts liked this.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 9:44 a.m.
#7
LBS
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2023
Posts: 1,518
Likes: 559
I'd have to agree with most other people Jenner is an underrated player, a trade for him probably starts at a 1st rounder + decent prospect and probably ballons into a crazy offer.
The guy can play all over your lineup PK\PP, 1st line winger, 3rd line center, leader, gritty, great at faceoffs etc
gretzkyghosts and Hockey_Soul liked this.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 9:56 a.m.
#8
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 409
Likes: 407
Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
I wouldn’t say he’s a unicorn at all, he’s a third line centre that plays physical. Those aren’t THAT rare.

I do agree that this offer isn’t enough, solely based on the fact that Krebs doesn’t have much value and needs a change of scenery. But I also don’t think Jenner would have an extremely high return either


I think unicorn might be overstating Jenner's skillset a bit. He is a little more than a 3C who plays physical, though imo he's more of a faceoff winning top-six wing. He goes to the net and is extremely proficient at old-school net front play. If you have a lot of rush players who want to play around in the zone and need space, Jenner is a perfect complement. If you have a line with two skilled players who create a lot of rebounds, Jenner will help them cash-in on their offense.

His scoring rate is well above his cap-hit and for that reason I believe he would fetch a rather large return.

Quoting: SK101
He’s a Bo Horvat type player on a contract that costs half for this season and the next two. These are the types of players GMs drool over at the deadline. The return would be huge especially if the jackets half retain


Boone Jenner isn't really close to Bo Horvat. He doesn't really contribute to the game outside of faceoff wins and net-front play. Those are incredibly valuable skillsets, don't get me wrong, but Bo Horvat can drive 60pt offense without help, as he did often in Vancouver, and is even better with good players. Boone Jenner needs a Jake Voracek or Johnny Gaudreau to get to 60 pts.
sabres89 liked this.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 9:59 a.m.
#9
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1,959
Likes: 783
Quoting: SK101
He’s a Bo Horvat type player on a contract that costs half for this season and the next two. These are the types of players GMs drool over at the deadline. The return would be huge especially if the jackets half retain


Are you high?

Just because they have similar play styles, doesn’t mean they have similar value. Jenner put up 45 points last season - Horvat almost had that many goals alone he had 38).

Jenner is a 40 point, two way player that has a ton of injury concerns around him, especially for his age. Yes his contract is great and Columbus wouldn’t retain on him since his deal is under $4M and the cap is going up significantly over the next 4 years so he’ll be easy for any team to fit in - so that negates your idea of his contract making him similar value to Horvat.

Realistically, it’s going to be contenders who see their window closing over the next few years that would be the biggest bidders for him (think Toronto, Boston, Tampa, etc.). & the comparable trade would be similar to Hagel being dealt to Tampa. So you’re likely looking at the equivalent of 2 late 1st rounders, and a couple fringe prospects who Columbus see potential upside in. But you’re not gonna get a massive haul for Jenner.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 10:16 a.m.
#10
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2022
Posts: 3,151
Likes: 2,830
Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
Are you high?

Just because they have similar play styles, doesn’t mean they have similar value. Jenner put up 45 points last season - Horvat almost had that many goals alone he had 38).

Jenner is a 40 point, two way player that has a ton of injury concerns around him, especially for his age. Yes his contract is great and Columbus wouldn’t retain on him since his deal is under $4M and the cap is going up significantly over the next 4 years so he’ll be easy for any team to fit in - so that negates your idea of his contract making him similar value to Horvat.

Realistically, it’s going to be contenders who see their window closing over the next few years that would be the biggest bidders for him (think Toronto, Boston, Tampa, etc.). & the comparable trade would be similar to Hagel being dealt to Tampa. So you’re likely looking at the equivalent of 2 late 1st rounders, and a couple fringe prospects who Columbus see potential upside in. But you’re not gonna get a massive haul for Jenner.


Jenner isn’t as good as horvat but his production is almost the same outside of this season and the last. He does get injured because of his play style but that’s what teams need for the playoffs. He also took a puck to the face which is why he’s out right now. Any player in the league would be injured from that. He can play center, wing, PP, PK. He also brings leadership. I’d also say he’s more like a 50 point player as he’s been on pace for that mark three times. He’s also played on some of the worst teams in the league the past few years.

I’d say 2 late first rounders is a massive haul imo so maybe we just have different definitions
gretzkyghosts liked this.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.
#11
Avatar of the user
Joined: Sep. 2018
Posts: 2,052
Likes: 1,714
Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
Realistically, it’s going to be contenders who see their window closing over the next few years that would be the biggest bidders for him (think Toronto, Boston, Tampa, etc.). & the comparable trade would be similar to Hagel being dealt to Tampa. So you’re likely looking at the equivalent of 2 late 1st rounders, and a couple fringe prospects who Columbus see potential upside in. But you’re not gonna get a massive haul for Jenner.


The price starts at 2 (late) 1sts in all likelihood...

Quoting: pocke
he's more of a faceoff winning top-six wing. He goes to the net and is extremely proficient at old-school net front play. If you have a lot of rush players who want to play around in the zone and need space, Jenner is a perfect complement. If you have a line with two skilled players who create a lot of rebounds, Jenner will help them cash-in on their offense.


...and this is why. There's simply not a lot of players in the league that play like him, and the demand for said players is high. Add on that you're getting a legit top-6 winger/faceoff specialist who can fill the net, at a cap hit that any contender can make work, and the price increases exponentially. And then you add on Columbus' high internal valuation of the person (captain, GP leader in franchise history, veteran presence on a team devoid of it), and the cost to even consider moving him increases the starting price anyway. He's as close to a unicorn as you get, and those players rarely become available.

Every team wants a player like that + Every team can afford a player like that + High internal value and unwillingless to move the player = massively overblown market and sky high trade value. It's literally a perfect storm of ballooning trade value. IF Columbus decided to move him, I think the return very easily reaches 2 1sts and a top prospect, and Jarmo would probably still lose his job for moving the guy in the first place.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.
#12
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1,959
Likes: 783
Quoting: SK101
Jenner isn’t as good as horvat but his production is almost the same outside of this season and the last. He does get injured because of his play style but that’s what teams need for the playoffs. He also took a puck to the face which is why he’s out right now. Any player in the league would be injured from that. He can play center, wing, PP, PK. He also brings leadership. I’d also say he’s more like a 50 point player as he’s been on pace for that mark three times. He’s also played on some of the worst teams in the league the past few years.

I’d say 2 late first rounders is a massive haul imo so maybe we just have different definitions


Teams need an injury prone player for playoffs? That’s a new style of recipe to win.

How can you say Jenner is a 50 point centre when he’s never hit 50 points? Guess you can say that Horvat is a point per game player then.

2 late firsts isn’t that valuable when they’re coming from contending teams. The odds of those players even making it to the NHL are slim let alone playing a substantial amount of games.
gretzkyghosts liked this.
Dec. 19, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
#13
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2020
Posts: 1,110
Likes: 663
Very nice. Love the banter. I knew the price would be a little low, but I don't think it should be too much higher.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll