The heck is this rumour what an awful trade

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Created by: csick

Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 8, 2024

Published: Jan. 8, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

OTT

Chisholm, Declan
Kupari, Rasmus
2024 4th round pick (WPG)
2025 1st round pick (WPG)

WPG

Chychrun, Jakob

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Michael Del Zotto: $750,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$83,500,000	$75,967,380	$0	$1,850,000	$7,532,620

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 5	Stützle, Tim $8,350,000$8,350,000 C UFA - 8	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 2
Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 7	Tarasenko, Vladimir $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW NTC UFA - 1
Kelly, Parker $762,500$762,500 LW RFA - 1	Greig, Ridly $863,333$863,333 C, LW RFA - 2	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
	Kastelic, Mark $835,000$835,000 C, RW RFA - 2	MacEwen, Zack $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 3
	Kupari, Rasmus $1,000,000$1,000,000 C, LW, RW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 5	Zub, Artem $4,600,000$4,600,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Korpisalo, Joonas $4,000,000$4,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Chisholm, Declan $775,000$775,000 LD/RD RFA - 1	Hamonic, Travis $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 2	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Brännström, Erik $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1	Bernard-Docker, Jacob $805,000$805,000 RD RFA - 2
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Chartier, Rourke $775,000$775,000 C UFA - 1	Joseph, Mathieu $2,950,000$2,950,000 LW, RW UFA - 3

Jan. 8 at 8:33 p.m.

ATC

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whats the source?

Jan. 8 at 8:34 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: ATC

whats the source?

https://x.com/djtj_sounds/status/1744215694475239474?s=46&t=xm3zglA4Z63Hsyn2uXzbaQ

Jan. 8 at 8:34 p.m.

KingExLeafs

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Good move for both sides.

Jan. 8 at 8:35 p.m.

csick

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KFTW

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Quoting: KingExLeafs

Good move for both sides.

Horrible for ottawa. Not even a 2024 1st. Not even a B prospect. Absolute garbage. This is beyond trash

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Jan. 8 at 8:35 p.m.

mv21227

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I think even Windjammer would have a hard time turning this one down. Terrible for Ottawa

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Jan. 8 at 8:37 p.m.

BillytheKid3

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I feel like Staios could get wayyyy more for Chychrun.

I get he wants to make a move, but patience is paramount in a situation like this. This season is over, no reason to let teams raid the pantry yet as I think they need a re-tool, not re-build.

Where did you see this trade specifically if you don’t mind me asking?

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Jan. 8 at 8:37 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: BillytheKid3

I feel like Staios could get wayyyy more for Chychrun.

I get he wants to make a move, but patience is paramount in a situation like this. This season is over, no reason to let teams raid the pantry.

Where did you see this trade specifically if you don’t mind me asking?

At the very least I’d want something like:
Christian Kyrou , Ty Dellandrea , 2024 1st, 2025 2nd

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Jan. 8 at 8:39 p.m.

BillytheKid3

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Quoting: csick

At the very least I’d want something like:
Christian Kyrou , Ty Dellandrea , 2024 1st, 2025 2nd

Ya great take csick. It has to be a similar price to what they paid. Staios has to be patient, teams will come knocking.

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Jan. 8 at 8:41 p.m.

KingExLeafs

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Quoting: csick

Horrible for ottawa. Not even a 2024 1st. Not even a B prospect. Absolute garbage. This is beyond trash

Ottawa could definitely do better, Kupari is not a player worth targeting, but it's not a horrible trade.

Jan. 8 at 8:42 p.m.

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ATC

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Quoting: csick

https://x.com/djtj_sounds/status/1744215694475239474?s=46&t=xm3zglA4Z63Hsyn2uXzbaQ

is the screenshot from someone reliable though? Just sounds like someone on hockeywriters.com wanted attention lol

Jan. 8 at 8:43 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: KingExLeafs

Ottawa could definitely do better, Kupari is not a player worth targeting, but it's not a horrible trade.

I’d do Lucius + Schmidt + 2024 1st + 3rd

Jan. 8 at 8:45 p.m.

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KingExLeafs

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Quoting: csick

I’d do Lucius + Schmidt + 2024 1st + 3rd

Lucius would be a great prospect to get. But are the Jets desperate enough to win to do that? Their GM makes bold moves so he might overpay if he really wants Chychrun.

Jan. 8 at 8:47 p.m.

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Windjammer

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Unless the Jets are convinced he is a highly competent RD, and there just aren't any viable RHD options, I can't see there being much truth to the rumour.

That and I can't see them moving Kupari so soon after acquiring him. That's not a usual Jet move.

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Jan. 8 at 8:50 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: KingExLeafs

Lucius would be a great prospect to get. But are the Jets desperate enough to win to do that? Their GM makes bold moves so he might overpay if he really wants Chychrun.

That’s not an overpay. Schmidt is borderline cap dump territory. Lucius is a good prospect but he’s not elite by any stretch

Jan. 8 at 9:01 p.m.

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toque

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Quoting: csick

I’d do Lucius + Schmidt + 2024 1st + 3rd

Quoting: KingExLeafs

Lucius would be a great prospect to get. But are the Jets desperate enough to win to do that? Their GM makes bold moves so he might overpay if he really wants Chychrun.

I'd happily trade Lucius, he gets injured in a stiff breeze. In fact I think he's getting close to untradeable soon if he can't stay healthy.

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Jan. 8 at 9:02 p.m.

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toque

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Can Chychrun play RD? The Jets need a RD unless they plan on letting Dillon walk and replacing him with Chychrun (not something I see Chevy doing even if Dillon walks)

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Jan. 8 at 9:05 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: toque

Can Chychrun play RD? The Jets need a RD unless they plan on letting Dillon walk and replacing him with Chychrun (not something I see Chevy doing even if Dillon walks)

Yes a little bit but the problem is him and Chabot don’t work well together

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Jan. 8 at 9:13 p.m.

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SwarmChair

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Seems like a bunch of crap for Chychrun. Didn’t the Sens pay a 1st and 2 2nds for him?

Jan. 8 at 9:14 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: SwarmChair

Seems like a bunch of crap for Chychrun. Didn’t the Sens pay a 1st and 2 2nds for him?

Yeah a bunch of crap and not even a 1st this year lol

Jan. 8 at 9:49 p.m.

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CMac66

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Twitter fan trades are not good for your mental health lol

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Jan. 8 at 10:33 p.m.

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Benzino204

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Ottawa could get a better deal for Chychrun.
Winnipeg's need is a top 4 RSD

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Jan. 9 at 8:39 a.m.

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CanMerc

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It’s a great trade value wise for WPG, but I would do it.
LHD is not a need or area of weakness… we need a 2C and RHD. This just wastes cap loading up an area we are already strong on.
Our salary would be better spent elsewhere

I very curious why so many fans of other teams can’t seem to come to grips with the fact the Jets don’t need LHD or LHW…. It’s like you are all in denial

The tweet…Xpost…whatever they call it now, had Larsson going to WPG also…

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