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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #3: After Further Review...

Feb. 2 at 7:10 p.m.
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lol you sound bitter. KK isnt an anchor


6 points in his last 35 games. Playing 4th line minutes, He's definitely an Anchor contract.
Feb. 2 at 7:13 p.m.
#627
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All of these players who've recently went on the NHL/NHLPA player assistance program and we have the band at the All-Star game singing about getting hooked on Oxy... nice
Feb. 2 at 7:16 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
I actually find it's close to the opposite. Player values are a minimum at the draft/FA and at a high during TD.


Player values being at a minimum at the draft/FA does make some sense, but I don't think they would be at their highest at the TD. I think the certainty of seeing the majority of the season play out lessens risk to some extent. For example, blockbuster trades in Oct/Nov have the risk of underperforming and/or injury. Cap dumps would theoretically be the most expensive because you're admitting a mistake you made and giving up on a player so quickly.
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Feb. 2 at 7:41 p.m.
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Who’s gonna win?

(Who finishes last?)
Feb. 2 at 8:02 p.m.
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Is Kucherov awake? He just got 5 points in the passing challenge, and didn’t do well in the one-timer challenge.
Feb. 2 at 8:38 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsForLife
Explain something to me. The narrative early in the season was the the Leafs didn't trade for a D-man because prices were too high and that they were waiting until the deadline when they could get a better deal. How can it be possible that the best value for a buyer is at the TDL, but simultaneously, buyers always overpay at the deadline?


The prices won't be any lower. Probably higher. The one thing that sort of makes sense for them is that the cap hit is prorated by the deadline. So it'll be easier to squeeze salaries under the cap than trying in the offseason. It maximizes potential cap room for the deadline. But no, the prices won't be any cheaper.
Feb. 2 at 9:28 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
If only they didn't have an Anchor making nearly 5 Million. That money could really be used for a difference maker.


Trocheck ugh dammit Waddell
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Feb. 2 at 9:58 p.m.
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And the rich get richer MCJESUS wins the $1,000,000
Feb. 2 at 10:05 p.m.
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Think it’s time for Tarasenko to the Hurricanes part 2: electric boogaloo
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Feb. 2 at 10:20 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
And the rich get richer MCJESUS wins the $1,000,000


1. McDavid $13.5m
2. Matthews 13.25m
3. MacKinnon $12.6m

(In a way)
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Feb. 2 at 10:29 p.m.
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I still don’t know wtf Chicago was thinking letting Strome go for nothing
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Feb. 2 at 11:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Canesfan21_
Think it’s time for Tarasenko to the Hurricanes part 2: electric boogaloo


Issue is Canes never pay high for rentals

OTT gonna want a 1st at least

Do we see NYR giving up that

As last Canes spent 1st = KK OS and Skeji trade
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Feb. 2 at 11:08 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
1. McDavid $13.5m
2. Matthews 13.25m
3. MacKinnon $12.6m

(In a way)


Ironically that was supposed to be McDavids original deal lul
Feb. 2 at 11:14 p.m.
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Honestly while Serevalli often has hot takes I liked his TDL take on GM's needing to get creative and stuff

We might see some RFA's, guys with significant term, or even some prospects be on the move

Cause if CGY does extend Hanifin and move Tanev there really aint much stuff beyond some okay depth
Feb. 3 at 12:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Canesfan21_
I still don’t know wtf Chicago was thinking letting Strome go for nothing


KD Masterclass. Kubalik was also let go. 3 consecutive 30 PT seasons at 25.
Feb. 3 at 1:21 a.m.
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https://x.com/babybergy37/status/1753606352893571156?s=20

This makes me way sadder than it probably should. Just give the dude a hug
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Feb. 3 at 6:53 a.m.
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Issue is Canes never pay high for rentals

OTT gonna want a 1st at least

Do we see NYR giving up that

As last Canes spent 1st = KK OS and Skeji trade


I believe the trade cost of Tarasenko could be very low. Effectively free without retention:

He forced a full no trade during the off-season. He’s going to want term to waive.

If any team approaches with an extension, then that’s the only team he would waive for. His agents will have spoken with literally every viable team just this last off season, twice. Two seperate agents.

If a player only waives for one team, their value is the lowest possible. The only way I see tarasenkos trade value increase are if multiple teams are interested in offering him a 3 or 4 year contract. I think, with the cap going up, it is most likely a team will be interested in giving him 3-4 years. Ottawa should truly be happy with whatever they get if a freshly signed player has a full no trade and waives for just one team.

Ottawa -could- find a deal where they retain and get a 1st, but if that team has no interest in keeping Tarasenko then I doubt Tarasenko has interest going there versus a team who wants him for a few years.
Feb. 3 at 9:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Canesfan21_
Think it’s time for Tarasenko to the Hurricanes part 2: electric boogaloo


Would you give a haul for some like Buchnevich
Feb. 3 at 11:00 a.m.
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What’s with all the Sean Walker overpayments? Did Philly turn him into a stud? He was terrible on the kings
Feb. 3 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Canesfan21_
What’s with all the Sean Walker overpayments? Did Philly turn him into a stud? He was terrible on the kings


He has been really good on Philly yes and he is likely one of the better rental D's to acquire (I'd argue Hanifin, Tanev, Seeler and Walker are the top rental D's that could be moved)
Feb. 3 at 12:39 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Issue is Canes never pay high for rentals

OTT gonna want a 1st at least

Do we see NYR giving up that

As last Canes spent 1st = KK OS and Skeji trade


Quoting: CantStopWontStop
I believe the trade cost of Tarasenko could be very low. Effectively free without retention:

He forced a full no trade during the off-season. He’s going to want term to waive.

If any team approaches with an extension, then that’s the only team he would waive for. His agents will have spoken with literally every viable team just this last off season, twice. Two seperate agents.

If a player only waives for one team, their value is the lowest possible. The only way I see tarasenkos trade value increase are if multiple teams are interested in offering him a 3 or 4 year contract. I think, with the cap going up, it is most likely a team will be interested in giving him 3-4 years. Ottawa should truly be happy with whatever they get if a freshly signed player has a full no trade and waives for just one team.

Ottawa -could- find a deal where they retain and get a 1st, but if that team has no interest in keeping Tarasenko then I doubt Tarasenko has interest going there versus a team who wants him for a few years.


Last year, Tarasenko allowed his NTC to be waived to just 3 teams.

The Rangers, the Islanders, the Devils.



Let's assume Tarasenko only allows a trade to 3 specific teams this year.

Would Ottawa still be able to get a 1st for Tarasenko ?



Of course, it would depend on what those 3 teams are.
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Feb. 3 at 2:06 p.m.
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Colorado places Prosvetov on waivers leaving them with only 1 goalie on their active roster. Francouz is out for the season. Only way that would make sense is if they are trading for a goalie...
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Feb. 3 at 2:24 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Colorado places Prosvetov on waivers leaving them with only 1 goalie on their active roster. Francouz is out for the season. Only way that would make sense is if they are trading for a goalie...


Or that Annunen is getting a look?
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Feb. 3 at 3:12 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
Or that Annunen is getting a look?


Guess that could be it, seems a little late into the season to figure that out though, no?
Feb. 3 at 3:59 p.m.
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Sidney Crosby goals at the 2024 All Star Game: 0

Boone Jenner goals at the 2024 All Star Game: 1

Really makes you think
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