Necas was unavailable the first time laine was available, necas is certainly not available this time too.

Laine us a team killer. Pass

Fair enough but, if we talk only about production I think it's undeniable that Laine is better at that than Necas, everything else that comes with him is definitely a valid reason not to want him.

I was just wondering if any Canes fans would risk it for the increase in goals (assuming Laine can stay healthy, which is starting to become a big assumption)
Personally I'd risk it but, I'm not a Canes fan and a degenerate gambler lol

Please explain what team he killed. The only person responsible for the state the Jackets are in is Jarmo Kekalainen and his inability to hire an NHL caliber coach, put together a competent defense, or acquire any top 6 centers.

Not sure what exactly ecupirate07 was referencing but, my interpretation of it was the way he left Winnipeg and how it kind shook the team pretty badly (Maurice quit if I remember correctly, Wheeler went from a guy considered a good leader to be thought of as more of a bully, Hellebuyck and Scheiffle wanted out but, have since resigned)

I don’t agree with previous commenter with the language used ‘team killer’. However, Laine isn’t what the Canes really need. They be better off just keeping Necas. If a move is made, it would be for a defensively responsible and offensively dangerous 2nd center type.

If Canes took a shot on Laine it would be a lowball offer because everyone else passed and Columbus doesn't want him anymore. This is not a lowball price. And for those reasons I'm out.

Carolina refused to move Necas for him the first time. Now he's got nowhere near the same value he did in WPG. This is a non-starter. If Columbus retained half, and it was a package of futures... maybe. But I wouldn't move anything off the roster for him

He isn’t a guy who plays a team game or contributes on both ends of the ice. Add in his contract is so high that he has a negative impact there too.

Success doesn’t follow the guy for a reason. A lot like PLD or Skinner.

Laine would be a 8.7 million dollar 4th liner. Our system doesn’t allow for us to hide poor defensive 2 way players with good ones. We are experiencing the same thing with Bunting. Bunting is much cheaper too. No reason to pay good assets for a one trick guy who has to be heavily insulated.

Calling laine a 4th liner is wild. Hes been at a PPG with the jackets when healthy. He’s only overpaid because of his injuries.

Like a Joel Eriksson Ek type? He'd be great to slot in the 2C

It isn’t wild when you look at our system. We have to hide poor 2 way players on the 4th line.

Bunting has played a lot of the 4th line 5v5
Necas, when he wasn’t playing 2 ways, played on the 4th line as well.

A player’s ppg pace has little to do with how our system employs players. If you don’t play a strong 2 way game, you aren’t getting a ton of 5v5 time

So much about team success goes beyond just one player, and a common link between the guys you mentioned is that they play for otherwise bad teams. Skinner’s net rating, for example, this season is almost three times higher than Necas’.

And the problem with the Jets went very far beyond Laine. If anything, it sound like Wheeler and Scheifele were the ones driving a wedge.

Laine for Necas +? Heck no.

Laine for futures + Deangelo (Cap Dump), sure let's talk.

Seems like more of an offseason trade though.

I would be ok with the Canes trying out Laine, but it would not be at the expense of players off the roster. He might be able to rekindle the chemistry he had with Aho (Laine-Aho-Turbo line could be very good), but I think the Canes would likely pass on Laine due to his defensive deficiencies and lengthy injury history.

Hell, his offense has really fallen off from what it was in Winnipeg, which for a player who doesn’t have really anything outside of offense, it’s not good. I don’t see a situation in which the Canes don’t ask for full retention. At best, given the current situation, a conditional 1st (games played and offense produced, otherwise Canes send 2 2nds or something) and a decent prospect might be the most you get from the Canes.

Out of curiosity, what's Necas' next deal going to look like? In a bubble, it doesn't make a lot of sense for Carolina to make this move. But if Carolina is looking for purely similar production in the top-6 with cost certainty for 2 more years, this might make more sense (though Columbus still add IMO). Laine at $7M isn't bad if it's a pure Necas replacement, and Necas is set to make something like $8-8.5M.

Show me some stats that support your belief that he doesn't play a team game or contribute at both ends of the ice.