Necas has for more value than saros

I don't think the canes will trade one of their most important offensive pieces for a goalie mid season.

I don't think Saros gets traded this season. Lankinen probably though. They still need a decent goalie to be the starter next season with Askarov as back up.

CAR has to add. Nashville has all the leverage .They don't need to trade Saaros. Carolina's goaltending has been absolutely brutal all year. Don't think they want to go into the playoffs with Raanta/Kochetkov as their tandem. I think it has to be Necas plus a high pick or another quality prospect. Maybe there is an asset going back to Carolina in the deal, but it won't be as valuable.

Necas doesn't make sense as the centerpiece of a Saros trade for NSH. They have a lot of high upside younger RWs in the system already. They'd be looking for C or RD prospects.

Just found this article, seems like Trotz might be more serious about moving Saros than he’s let on.

https://nashvillehockeynow.com/2024/02/14/the-likelihood-of-a-juuse-saros-trade-is-greater-than-you-might-think/#

Without serious adds from Nashville, I can’t see why Carolina would be interested.

Nobody trades very good skaters for goalies.

Please provide an example

Nashville has no leverage. He's a goalie and he only has 1 year of term

Obviously these situations don’t compare perfectly, but
Ručinský was part of the package for Roy and Kozlov part of the package for Hašek. Different time and different goalies though, so you may have a point.

You are right, there aren't any, but its because there aren't really any comparable trades in the modern era of elite goalies getting traded, because it just doesn't happen. The pool of wingers and forwards is much higher than that of goalies, especially those at Saros's level. I'm not saying everyone can be as good as Necas, because they can't, but that doesn't mean that no one ever trades top-tier players for each other when it makes sense.

The bigger issue is that for NSH, they don't need RW's. They already have a warchest of top 6 caliber RW prospects so I'm going to agree with @gmgb I don't think it works with Necas as a centerpiece. Additionally, it doesn't seem like anyone can agree on who adds to this deal, and it honestly may just be a reshuffling of various assets if a deal like this ever happened.

Find one trade in NHL history where a team has moved a top 6 forward who can put up 70+ points for a goalie. If someone can find a trade that has set that precedent, maybe there is a conversation to be had.

As for Saros, amazing goalie, but he isn’t getting that. Goalies don’t have that level of value. They are way too inconsistent from a game to game basis, and like with Saros this season, they have down seasons. Goalies also get influenced by the team in front of them, whereas the only skaters that get much influence from the goalie would be more defensive oriented skaters. A good benchmark trade for the cap era for starting goaltenders, would be the Kuemper to Colorado trade. Granted, it was an overpayment out of desperation, but it’s a lot more likely for starting goalies to go for around that price than top 6 forwards.

As a little note for people saying “the Canes need a goalie” or “the Canes goaltending has been terrible all year”, I want you to look at the difference in stat lines before Dec 12 versus after Dec 12. Canes have had some of the best goaltending after Dec 12. So they don’t need a goalie, they just need their goalies to be healthy, which Raanta is expected back in 2 weeks, and Andersen by the end of February.

Bertuzzi was coming off a 70+ point season, when he was traded for Luongo.

Hull hadn't hit 70 yet when he and Bozek were traded for Wamsley and Ramage, but he obviously blew past that benchmark many times over.

Not happening - Canes decline…Only way this works has way too many moving parts, and it’d likely be an offseason deal (Necas Arb RFA) and Nashville would have to add. In addition, the Canes would have to be comfortable with 3.4m Freddie, 2m Pyotr, and 5m Saros…

Cory Schneider was a legit top 5 goalie in hockey when he was traded

and NJD would redo that trade in an instant

Prime Cory Schneider with this group would have moved mountains.

So underrated through his prime. Arguably the 2nd best goalie in the league behind Henrik from 2010-2016

he was good for the first 3 years, then fell off a cliff, only 1 playoffs with NJD< he was not worth Horvat then and NJD would redo this trade in a instant

NJDs roster wasn’t in the time or place to make that move, should have just rebuilt.

But Cory Schneider was worth the 9th overall pick. No doubt about it

no G is worth a top 10 pick, NONE

If you put that Cory Schneider on this team I would be very confident we’d win the Stanley cup

that is impossible to know, more often than not top goalies during a season don't even make it to the finals, at least half the Stanley cup winners in the last 10 years have won with Gs who were at the time unknow, prospects, or back ups.

He’s staying in Nashville then

If they trade for Saros it means Freddie is done

Then it’d behave to be offseason, and aNSH would still have to add pretty heavily. 1 year of UFA above average goaltending doesn’t equal a top 6 RFA