Moritz Seider Trade Comps

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Created by: NHLfan10506

Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 22, 2024

Published: Apr. 22, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

This is just for fun. Read below.

Have seen Seider included in a few trades recently and thought I'd put together a few trade comps for him. These are not offers nor recommendations...just some of the more similar trades should the market be called for him...there aren't many that are perfect comps, so I had to stretch for these. (for the record, I do not believe Seider will be or ought to be traded) THIS IS JUST FOR FUN.

Since there aren't many great comps to use for stud young dmen getting dealt at his age, I tried to find an examples of the more common scenarios for bigger trades: (1) One or more players is hitting RFA, (2) Its a Dman for forward deal. I included some older ones too...again these are just for fun. Hard to use trades from 1982 as comps in real life today.

A few other fun ones I considered...
-- 2024 ANA/PHI: Jamie Drysdale, 2024 2nd for Cutter Gauthier
-- 1999 NYI/TOR: Bryan Berard, 6th for Felix Potvin, 6th
-- 2016 CBJ/NSH: Seth Jones for Ryan Johansen
-- 2006 ANA/EDM: Chris Pronger for Joffrey Lupul, Ladislav Smid, 2007 1st, 2008 1st, 2008 2nd
-- 1994 HRT/BOS: Glen Wesley for 1995 1st, 1996 1st, 1997 1st
-- 1996 OTT/NYI/TOR: Byran Berard, Martin Straka, Don Beaupre for Wade Redden, Dominic Rhodes
-- 1990 STL/WSH: Scott Stevens for five 1st round picks (1991-95) (but not a trade)

Enjoy...if you have any others to add, put in comments.

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If you would like to see previous comps...go to full library here:

https://premium.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/789444

Trades

DET

K'Andre Miller
Gabe Perreault
Kaapo Kakko

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Comp:
CAR/CGY (2018)

Dougie Hamilton
Adam Fox
Micheal Ferland

NYR

Moritz Seider
Lucas Raymond

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Comp:
CAR/CGY (2018)

Elias Lindholm
Noah Hanifin

DET

Quinton Byfield

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Comp:
TBL/MTL (2017)

Jonathan Drouin

LAK

Moritz Seider

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Comp:
TBL/MTL (2017)

Mikhail Sergachev

DET

2024 1st (#9)
2024 2nd (#41)
2024 2nd (#64) (DAL)

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Comp:
BOS/CGY (2015)

2015 1st (#15)
2015 2nd (#45)
2015 2nd (#52)

CGY

Moritz Seider

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Comp:
BOS/CGY (2015)

Dougie Hamilton

DET

Leon Draisaitl
Mattias Ekholm
Philip Broberg
2025 3rd

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Comp:
FLA/VAN (1999)

Pavel Bure
Bret Hedican
Brad Ference
2000 3rd

EDM

Moritz Seider
Dylan James
Fabbri
Cossa
2025 1st

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Comp:
FLA/VAN (1999)

Ed Jovanovski
Mike Brown
Dave Gagner
Kevin Weekes
2000 1st

DET

Kirill Kaprizov
Charlie Stramel
2024 4th (#110)

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Comp:
ANA/WPG (1996)

Teemu Selanne
Marc Chouinard
1996 4th (#92)

MIN

Moritz Seider
Marco Kasper
2024 3rd (#80)

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Comp:
ANA/WPG (1996)

Oleg Tverdovsky
Chad Kilger
1996 3rd (#62)

DET

Thomas Harley
Wyatt Johnston
2024 1st (#31)

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Comp:
COL/STL (2011)

Kevin Shattenkirk
Chris Stewart
2011 2nd (#32)

DAL

Moritz Seider
Michael Rusmussen
2024 1st (#15)

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Comp:
COL/STL (2011)

Erik Johnson
Jay McClement
2011 1st round pick (#11)

DET

2024 1st (#6)
2025 1st (unprotected)

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Comp:
CRK/STL (1982)

1982 1st (#6)
1983 1st (#8)

ARI

Moritz Seider

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Comp:
CRK/STL (1982)

Rob Ramage

DET

Cutter Gauthier

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Comp:
ANA/PHI (2024)

Cutter Gauthier

ANA

Moritz Seider
2024 2nd (#47)

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Comp:
ANA/PHI (2024)

Jamie Drysdale
2024 2nd (#36)

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $1,055,556
Kailer Yamamoto: $433,334

Retained Salary Transactions

Jakub Vrána: $2,625,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$80,430,140	$0	$2,500,000	$3,069,860

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
DeBrincat, Alex $7,875,000$7,875,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Larkin, Dylan $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NTC UFA - 8	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 1
Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW UFA - 2	Copp, Andrew $5,625,000$5,625,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Kane, Patrick $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW NTC UFA - 1
Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,460,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Compher, J.T. $5,100,000$5,100,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 5	Perron, David $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Sprong, Daniel $2,000,000$2,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Veleno, Joseph $825,000$825,000 C RFA - 1	Fischer, Christian $1,125,000$1,125,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Walman, Jake $3,400,000$3,400,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Holl, Justin $3,400,000$3,400,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Lyon, Alex $900,000$900,000 G UFA - 2
Gostisbehere, Shayne $4,125,000$4,125,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Chiarot, Ben $4,750,000$4,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Husso, Ville $4,750,000$4,750,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Määttä, Olli $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD UFA - 2	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Reimer, James $1,500,000$1,500,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1		Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 1
Czarnik, Austin $762,500$762,500 C, RW UFA - 1
Simek, Radim $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Apr. 22 at 2:06 p.m.

A_Habs_fan

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I know this is just for fun but Seider is absolutely worth more than Cutter

Apr. 22 at 2:14 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: A_Habs_fan

I know this is just for fun but Seider is absolutely worth more than Cutter

I agree...added since I figured others would bring up.

Apr. 22 at 2:16 p.m.

NYR1983

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I would hope NYR says no. But that package isn’t out of the question. DET probably says no also. Mo is great and Raymond has more value today than the other 2 RW.

Apr. 22 at 2:18 p.m.

zadinaveleno

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Raymond AND Seider to the Rangers for that...

think before you post....

Apr. 22 at 2:22 p.m.

drambui

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maybe tyler myers could be used as a comp too? had a strong start to his career.

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Apr. 22 at 2:35 p.m.

SupremeBone

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I'm gonna refrain from commenting on most of these but I need to take the time to state that the suggestion that Jamie Drysdale is even in the same ballpark value-wise as Seider is wild

Like, you could add three 1sts to Drysdale and I'd still refuse.

Apr. 22 at 2:38 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: zadinaveleno

Raymond AND Seider to the Rangers for that...

think before you post....

Did you read the intro?

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Apr. 22 at 2:47 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: drambui

maybe tyler myers could be used as a comp too? had a strong start to his career.

Tyler Myers 1st 246 games: 32g, 81a, 113 pts, +13, 133 PIM
Moritz Seider 1st 246 games: 21g, 113a, 134 pts, -7, 51 PIM

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Apr. 22 at 2:51 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: SupremeBone

I'm gonna refrain from commenting on most of these but I need to take the time to state that the suggestion that Jamie Drysdale is even in the same ballpark value-wise as Seider is wild

Like, you could add three 1sts to Drysdale and I'd still refuse.

Read the intro

Apr. 22 at 3:07 p.m.

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SupremeBone

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Read the intro

I did. The point I'm making is that for a trade to be worth calling a comparable, the players involved have to be within some reasonable range of similarity. Otherwise, what's the point of it? You can say just for fun, but I think the thought experiment would be both more fun & compelling if it didn't include such an outlier.

Apr. 22 at 3:11 p.m.

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NHLfan10506

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Quoting: SupremeBone

Drysdale one is just the most recent...and I figured someone else will bring it up (RHD #6 in 2019 vs RHD #6 in 2020), so I included.

If you have a more fitting comp, please share

Apr. 22 at 3:17 p.m.

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AG_sweden

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Huge fan of Moritz but NYR has Schneider and Fox, so no thanks. I could see myself upgrading over Kakko but not at the expense of K'Andre Miller and Gabe Perreault.

Apr. 22 at 3:25 p.m.

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CD282

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Your Edmonton trade is WAY off. Ekholm is probably the best 2-way defender in the league right now, Draisaitl is a top-5 center. Nothing in the Bure trade come close to this package, nor does the return from Detroit come close in value.

Apr. 22 at 3:27 p.m.

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dgibb10

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Quoting: CD282

If only we had an example of a player like Ekholm being traded in the recent past to use as a gauge of his value.

@NHLfan10506 what do you think. Unfortunately I think it would be impossible to find a trade to use as a comparable for Mattias Ekholm's value. If only

Apr. 22 at 3:51 p.m.

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CD282

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Edited Apr. 22 at 5:08 p.m.

Quoting: dgibb10

If only we had an example of a player like Ekholm being traded in the recent past to use as a gauge of his value.

NHLfan10506 what do you think. Unfortunately I think it would be impossible to find a trade to use as a comparable for Mattias Ekholm's value. If only

You seem to have misunderstood my point. Where is the "Ekholm equivalent" in this list?

Comp:
FLA/VAN (1999)

Pavel Bure
Bret Hedican
Brad Ference

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Also, Bure had publicly requested a trade and had sat out for half a season, instead returned to Russia to train there. His value is very different from Draisaitl's present value.

Apr. 22 at 4:08 p.m.

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aedoran

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There 3 trade comps here based on pre 2000 trades and the NHL was so different that a comparison doesn't really work.

Apr. 22 at 4:41 p.m.

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Huge_Caniac_Abe_Lincoln

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Ironically, I think rather than K'Andre Miller as the Dougie comp for the first trade, I would say you could use Adam Fox.

Apr. 22 at 4:47 p.m.

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zadinaveleno

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Did you read the intro?

yes

Raymond and Seider for that package is laughable.

Raymond just put up 72 points as a 21 year old (turned 22 late in the season)

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Apr. 22 at 5:15 p.m.

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dgibb10

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Quoting: CD282

The ekholm equivalent is a 1st+basically nothing. Which is what Ekholm was literally traded for, last year.

Ekholm for 1st+Cossa

Seider for Drai

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