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Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 27 at 3:42 a.m.

Thread: Philadelphia Flyers signed Ryan Poehling (2 Years / $1,900,000 AAV)

This is a pretty good deal for a 3rd / 4th liner.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 27 at 3:29 a.m.

Thread: Tampa Bay Lightning signed Anthony Cirelli (8 Years / $6,250,000 AAV)

Halfway through the first year of this contact... His offence has stagnated and his defence has gotten worse. This is a bad signing now.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 26 at 11:35 a.m.

Thread: Philadelphia Flyers signed Owen Tippett (8 Years / $6,200,000 AAV)

It would have been an overpayment last season, but not by a huge margin. $5 million would have been about right.

However, his defence has improved A LOT going from an on-ice goal differential of 20 below expected to about 6 or 7 below expected for the same games played.

If he continues to improve, then this will be an absolutely bargain in a few years and even at the end, when he's likely playing worse, it will still be really good.

Forum: NHL TradesJan. 26 at 3:14 a.m.

Thread: (PIT/MIN) - Butcher for Cajkovic

Minnesota got a player who has played in the NHL and might return.
Pittsburgh got a player who was playing in the ECHL this year.

Minnesota wins, but it is a (mostly) meaningless trade.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 24 at 11:57 p.m.

Thread: Chicago Blackhawks signed Petr Mrázek (2 Years / $4,250,000 AAV)

Not the worst of the three $4+ million contracts they've signed recently, but not the best either.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 19 at 7:51 p.m.

Thread: Chicago Blackhawks signed Jason Dickinson (2 Years / $4,250,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>I’d rather someone shove a slice of pepperoni up my eye then trade for Campbell</div></div>

Not even if you got a 1st, a 2nd, and a prospect?

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 19 at 7:50 p.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Aliaksei Protas (5 Years / $3,375,000 AAV)

He's worth this much this year, although it is close. Furthermore, he's young and improving, so this is a good signing.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 19 at 7:46 p.m.

Thread: Ottawa Senators signed Shane Pinto (1 Year / $775,000 AAV)

This contract makes sense for both player and team. Pinto needs to prove he can handle the off ice stuff before he can get a big contract.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 17 at 8:04 p.m.

Thread: Chicago Blackhawks signed Jason Dickinson (2 Years / $4,250,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>We’re just trying to stay above the cap floor for right now</div></div>

Trade for Jack Campbell. Problem solved.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 16 at 5:27 p.m.

Thread: Chicago Blackhawks signed Jason Dickinson (2 Years / $4,250,000 AAV)

He deserves a raise. He doesn't deserve this much of a raise. $3.5 million is about has high as I would go.

Forum: NHL TradesJan. 13 at 5:11 a.m.

Thread: (BUF/MTL) - Cederqvist for Future considerations

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dahlin_On_Me</b></div><div>Serious question, why would a team trade for nothing? I don’t really understand the logic, is it an “I owe you one” thing? A payroll dump?</div></div>

It might not be for nothing. Last year, the Vancouver Canucks send Wyatt Kalynuk to the New York Rangers for 'future considerations'. At the same time, the ABBOTSFORD Canucks got Zach Giuttari from the Hartford Wolf Pack, again for 'future considerations'.

This might be the case here. Or maybe Buffalo just want to free up a contract slot to take on retained salary during the trade deadline.

Forum: NHL TradesJan. 13 at 5:04 a.m.

Thread: (BUF/MTL) - Cederqvist for Future considerations

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Some Buffalo fans are outrageous... Voting for a future considerations win, seriously?</div></div>

It could be an NHL / AHL trade. The Canucks did one last year where the Rangers got a player on an NHL contract and Vancouver got a player on an AHL contract. However, since that player didn't have a NHL contract, it was two trades, both for 'future considerations'.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 12 at 4:12 p.m.

Thread: Chicago Blackhawks signed Nick Foligno (2 Years / $4,500,000 AAV)

He's not living up to his contract this year and he's getting a raise? I would have concerns at half this price.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 9 at 1:11 a.m.

Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>
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Does this take into account expected cap increase? The NHL's hockey related revenue was over $6 billion last year and expected to be $6.2 billion this season. The salary cap should be close to $100 million, except according to the CBA it can't grow by more than 5% per year. It's going to grow at the max every year for the next four years, just to catch up to where it should be now. If the cap does hit $100 million before this contract ends, then its value will rise with inflation.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 8 at 7:29 p.m.

Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>Yah and his previous career high is 87. Making him the highest payed winger in the league would have been beyond idiotic</div></div>

The salary cap is going up by just over $4 million this off season. Idiotic is going to be the standard for a UFA this summer.

Forum: NHL TradesJan. 8 at 7:28 p.m.

Thread: (ANA/PHI) - Drysdale, 2025 2nd (ANA) for Gauthier

Just looking at the numbers suggests Philly won.

HOWEVER, and this is important. It took Drysdale TWO MONTHS to recover from an injury that was called day-to-day. This could be a bad sign.

Still, I'll call it a fair trade, pending injuries.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 8 at 4:20 p.m.

Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Saskleaf</b></div><div>Surprisingly it’s not as bad as you’d think. Nylanders raise is more or less covered by the rising cap. But that doesn’t change the fact that it’s an overpay.</div></div>

He's on pace for almost exactly 120 points. He would have gotten $12 million on the free market, maybe more.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 8 at 3:24 p.m.

Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed William Nylander (8 Years / $11,500,000 AAV)

It's good in a vacuum, but how the hell can Toronto afford this.

Forum: NHL TradesJan. 6 at 3:39 p.m.

Thread: (PIT/CHI) - Pitlick for 2026 7th (CHI)

Chicago was desperate and they still were able to get an NHL player for just a 7th. Wow. Good trade.

Forum: NHL TradesJan. 3 at 2:35 p.m.

Thread: (VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Andy_Dick</b></div><div>Shows how overrated picks and prospects are in this forum. Raty is a complete bust. Beau was dumped for nada. They overpaid themselves for Hronek. Worked out but Horvat is the best asset.

Isles handily won this trade! Horvat is the best player, they win!</div></div>

Horvat isn't living up to his contract. It's close, but not quite.
Raty is just 21 years old and his fourth in scoring on the Abbotsford Canucks.
Beau was a cap dump to Vancouver.
Vancouver turned the pick into Hronek and Beau into Zadorov.

There's no rational world where you can say the Islanders won this deal.

Forum: NHL SigningsJan. 1 at 6:36 p.m.

Thread: Toronto Maple Leafs signed Ilya Samsonov (1 Year / $3,550,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Per the Arb rules couldnt get it which kind of sucks as if he was 1 year younger would have got 2 years. But lets see hes good we can give him a 2 year bigger deal

He sucks bye</div></div>

I came by here to see what people thought of this deal when it was first signed. I remember liking it myself and that seems to be the overwhelming opinion. However, it has turned out poorly.

"He sucks bye" appears to be what happened.

By the way, I accidentally hit the report button instead of the quote button. I really hope the mods realize that was a mistake and no one gets punished.

Forum: NHL SigningsDec. 31, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Ethan Bear (2 Years / $2,062,500 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Should have gone 1-year</div></div>

He refused to sign for one year and there were plenty of teams looking for defencemen, so he was going to get his two years.

Forum: NHL SigningsDec. 28, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.

Thread: Washington Capitals signed Ethan Bear (2 Years / $2,062,500 AAV)

I think he's underrated defensively and as long as he's fully healed, then he will earn this paycheck. Good signing.

Forum: NHL TradesDec. 23, 2023 at 10:09 a.m.

Thread: (WPG/LAK) - Dubois for Iafallo, Kupari, Vilardi, 2024 2nd (MTL)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>Cam Talbot is having his best season since his rookie year. If he slips to his career average, or is injured, then LA is in trouble.

But back to PLD, his point-per-game average is close to the lowest in his career and his on-ice goal differential is 7.5 below expected. According to The Athletic, his market value is $4.0 million, less than half of what he's being paid.</div></div>

It has been less than ten days since I wrote this and PLD's on-ice goal differential has fallen to 9.8 below expected.

He's on an 82-game pace for 14 goal, 20 assists, and an on-ice goal differential 27.7 below expected.

And he's getting paid $8.5 million this season and the next seven.

I'd rather have Kupari at $1 million than PLD at $8.5 million.

Forum: NHL TradesDec. 21, 2023 at 2:12 a.m.

Thread: (COL/SEA) - Tatar for 2024 5th (SEA)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>1. It took Tatar 10 weeks from the start of free agency to sign for only 1.5 million on a 1 year deal.
He's not exactly a hot commodity.
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That's because very few teams had the cap room to sign him. Colorado got him at a bargain price.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>
3. Tatar's "bread and butter" is what he produces offensively.
He scored just 1 goal in 27 games with Colorado, was on pace for only 27 points and was playing only 11 minutes a night.
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27 points and an even on-ice goal differential above expected is worth more than $1.5 million. They gave away a player that was outperforming their contract for a draft pick that will likely never play for them.

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