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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 4:05 p.m.
Thread: Pieces in an Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>People are going to be surprised when the see the return for Eichel. And If Adams really did say he'd prefer to move him out west, that's the dumbest thing he could have done cause it lowers his value even more but lessening the amount of teams to make a deal with. The Eichel return isn't going to be the "equivalent of 4 1st round picks" that was the reported ask already.. remember that's just <em>the ask</em>. You start negotiating high, and settle under it. It's likely going to be 1 top prospect or young high NHL impact player, a guaranteed 1st, possibly a 2nd guaranteed 1st or at very least a conditional 1st, and another prospect that could have a high ceiling but is less likely to hit it but needs some work. The best comparable to this deal is going to be the Erik Karlsson trade. It's not going to be as high as people think.</div></div>

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Erik Karlsson had 1 year on his deal. Eichel has 5...

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Sens got a massive return for Karlsson in Tim Stutzle.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2021 at 4:32 p.m.
Thread: Pieces in an Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrueCanuck</b></div><div>And Karlsson signed an extension with San Jose, which was the Sharks primary intention after acquiring him. So the contract length debate is kinda thrown out the door.

It also wasn't a "massive return" at the time, &amp; many people thought San Jose got off light in the deal. Sens got:
Middle 6 young NHL player (Tierney)
Middle age bottom 4 defenceman (Demelo)
Rights to a top prospect (Norris)
A guaranteed 1st (Stuetzle)
A prospect that has a high ceiling but needed a lot of work (Balcers)
A 2nd round pick (later traded to Carolina)
A conditional 1st (conditions never met so pick was never received by Ottawa)

So outta all of that, the only real valuable piece they got was Stuetzle. &amp; at the time of the trade the 1st wasn't highly valued because San Jose was seen as a top team, they just **** the bed that year so Ottawa got lucky.

That's by no means a "massive return" when they really only got 1 highly valued piece.</div></div>

Actually Karlsson didn't resign until after the season was over and SJS grossly overpaid to retain his services. So the contract length debate is definitely not thrown out the door.

If Eichel was getting paid 13 million/season (what he'd likely get as a UFA on the open market) then you could take the length out of the equation but he isn't.

Eichel should get at least double if not triple what the Sens got for Karlsson.

I'm not even a Sabres fan. I'm a Sens fan...
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 12, 2021 at 2:54 p.m.
Thread: Eichel Danault Coleman
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhuntlol</b></div><div>LAs main reporter and elliotte friedman basically confirmed it. its not like marner is 28, he just turned 24 lol</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>Links?
Also, that’s not coming from Blake’s mouth
And i know for a fact he’s been calling Buffalo for 2 YEARS trying to get Eichel
Doubt he just suddenly changed his mind

And ZERO INTEREST in Marner
You guys aren’t getting Eichel
Especially not with us holding half his salary
Dream on pal
But your idea just isn’t reality</div></div>

This is always what GMs tell reporters. They leak stories to get the narrative they want out therw as a negotiating tactic. It means absolutely nothing. It's gamesmanship. Nothing more. You think LA is going to leak: "We absolutely have to get Eichel! He's our top target!"?

Unbelievable what some people will believe. Use you brain. Everybody lies.