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Armchair-GM
Mar. 19, 2019 at 7:08 p.m.
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Moving Point - Trades with ARZ and WPG
Arizona trade maybe.
Massive over-payment for Laine.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 19, 2019 at 7:05 p.m.
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From the TB POV DocArin0
Send it!
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 19, 2019 at 6:58 p.m.
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Hughes Bros
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>moli92</b></div><div>I would disagree with that. Makar is consistently ranked higher than Hughes on NHL-affiliated prospect rankings and even reached #1 overall (<a href="http://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/story/_/id/26142330/top-50-nhl-prospects-ranking-best-young-players-hockey" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">http://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/story/_/id/26142330/top-50-nhl-prospects-ranking-best-young-players-hockey</a>)</div></div>
I agree, Quinn Hughes is a savage but Cale Makar is putting up better prospect numbers as of now. Trading Makar for Quinn would still make sense if I'm drafting Jack.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 19, 2019 at 2:53 a.m.
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Hughes Bros
Forgot to add Jack :tearsofjoy
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 18, 2019 at 11:50 p.m.
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Realistic Worst-Case Scenario pt 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>Nice chatting with ya
Good luck in the playoffs
I’d like to see SJ win it, bc idk if Jumbo Joe will get another good chance
But i wouldn’t mind at all if Tampa did
All I’ve got to cheer for the Sabres at this point is some Lottery luck ???</div></div>
If not Tampa, I'd also pick SJ. Joe's gotta get 1, I just don't know if the Shark's goalie tandem is gonna be enough, they both had a rough season (especially since their team is doing this good).
But nice chatting with you, best of luck winning the lottery! Always a chance!
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 17, 2019 at 5:17 p.m.
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Lines from tonight plus stats and notes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BOLTLOVER1</b></div><div>Mc Donough is one of most valuable players on this team. Cernek has developed for a reason and Mc Donough wears the "A" for a reason.
Sorry cant agree with you on Sergy and Gourde .. Sergy good offensively but own zone disaster and pairing him with Hedman is disaster defensively. Gourde is 4th liner at best now .. Joseph has clearly passed him as has Paquette who is playing great.</div></div>
You can't be serious? Sure Sergy's defense hasn't been fully developed yet, but he's only human. Everyone makes a mistake here and there, especially younger players. His combination of size, strength, skating ability, hockey IQ (especially offensively), is extremely rare to come across. I think playing with Hedman would be one of the best options for developing his game.
Gourde is a 4th liner at best now?!?!? At best??? no words for this one lmao. Joseph & Paquette are clearly lower than Gourdo when ranking TB's fwds. Change my mind.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 17, 2019 at 2:49 p.m.
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Ristolainen suggested by KUUUCH
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMTD</b></div><div>Another well thought out replay. Yes you did say Mittelstadt and Ristolainen. IMO BriseBois would do better if he tried to move Callahan and Gourde or Miller in separate deals. It is too complicated to do this in deal. One year of Callahan's cap to team with cap space could be had for minimal assets, certainly not much more than a Tampa 2nd. Then BriseBois could negotiate a fair trade for Miller or Gourde. Trying to mix the two will most like over value the impact of taking on Callahan's salary and therefore diminish other assets involved in the deal.
I would like to add, IMO Betterall will not be very active trying to sign UFA's this summer. He does not have a lot of cap space and if he signed one he may need to expose a valuable player to Seattle in the draft. Therefore, there may be interest for the Sabres to take on Callahan for a very modest addition. Maybe Callahan and 2019 2nd for O'Regan or another prospect.</div></div>
Yea I agree, def would be simpler if Callahan gets dumped with an asset before miller gets traded. I do think Tampa tries to move miller this off season (or another fwd if someone moves their NTC), so they can make sure erne & paquette re-sign.
Callahan & 3rd rd pick for William Worge Kreü and you got a deal.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 17, 2019 at 1:56 a.m.
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Ristolainen suggested by KUUUCH
First of all, I said Mittelstadt (who I'd prefer) or Nylander ... And I'd rather send a 1st or a top fwd prospect over Sergy or Foote. But Risto (w/ 2m retained) & Mittlestadt for Cally, 1st/Katchouk, Miller? Send it.
Has anyone on here even attempted to make the cap work for Tampa next season?? :shakehead Here are some scenario examples to understand the logic of the trade...
Scenario 1: Callahan doesn't get traded or bought out. Let's assume we don't resign anyone besides Coburn @ 1m cap hit. Aside from keeping Cally, this would clear the most cap without making a trade.
Result: Assuming the cap ceiling is 83m next year, that'd leave us with 6.36m cap space to resign Pointer (which most believe is too low), and that's just accounting for 12 fwds, 6 dmen, 2 goalies...
Scenario 2: Callahan gets bought out. Like scenario 1, Coburn resigns @ 1m cap hit. This would leave us with 9.5m cap space (which most believe is enough, but not enough for other RFAs).
Result: 18 skater & 2 goalies get locked up under the cap ceiling, and Cally's buyout carries a 1.56m cap hit for 2020-21, then the buy out penalties are over (Good deal if you ask me).
Scenario 3: Callahan gets traded (TB doesn't retain any of his cap hit), no other contracts come back to TB, and we'd have 12.16m in cap space (enough to re-sign Paquette and/or Erne, along with Pointer ofc), which is the big objective. Re-signing Point isn't the challenge, as I showed in the first 2 scenarios... Resigning the other expiring RFAs, on top of Point, is the challenge.
Result: Tampa trades an asset (value unknown, I'd predict 4th rd pick - 1st rd pick), but clears up even more space for our RFA's.
Scenario 4: Callahan gets traded (TB doesn't retain any of his cap hit) along with a 1st rd pick.... BUF sends back Ristolainen (w/ 2m retained).
Result: Leaves us with 9.76m in cap space (likely only be enough to re-sign Point), which would be 12 fwds, 6 dmen, 2 goalies.
Scenario 5: Callahan gets traded (TB doesn't retain any of his cap hit) along with a 1st rd pick & J.T. Miller.... BUF sends back Ristolainen (w/ 2m retained) and Mittlestadt.
Result: Leaves us with 14.1m in cap space... Plenty for Pointer, Erne, Paquette, which would put us at 14 fwds under the ceiling (assuming 2 crunch players come up)... Also puts us in better cap situation coming into 2020-21...
Ristolainen @ 3.4m for the next 3 years is the highlight of the trade. With the NTC stockpile in Tampa, Miller is the unfortunate odd man out. If you think the asking price for Cally should be high, just check the buyout penalty and ask yourself again. 1st round pick tops.
Breaking the trade down: Personally I think Mittlestadt is pretty close, if not higher than Miller regarding trade value (Mittlestadt could break out any year now). I think Cally & a 1st for Risto @ 3.4m is a no brainer. What's the problem?
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PenGoater99</b></div><div>Tampa gets fleeced in this deal.
What a stupid trade</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LGRW_</b></div><div>people clearly don't see ristolainen's value, and the fact callahan's contract will kill this team</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hedman77</b></div><div>I agree Ristolainen is underrated but adding Sergachev is a little excessive. Same with Nylander. Miller and Callahan obviously isn't enough for Ristolainen but I think Sergachev is bridging the gap too much</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojme</b></div><div>That's a hard no from me</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMTD</b></div><div>Betterall would try to keep a straight face as his innards are jumping for joy. What a steal. Sergachev is a young Ristolainen at a bargain price, Miller fills in the #2 center spot, Callahan may be just what the Sabres need to settle the team down after tough losses. Let's make a deal! :cheers</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>Nah, its not a killer, its one year at 5.8. But you dont take it for free, if he is having trouble producing on a stacked tampa team, hes gonna look like leino or rob niedermeyer here. I dont like taking a left handed d back, we have lhd that should be ready. And for some reason we are retaining on ristolainen. Take the retention away and im still looking for a better deal. Retaining to help the best team in the league, that happens to be in our division, sign their players, thats just terrible.</div></div>
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2019 at 10:33 p.m.
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Realistic Worst-Case Scenario pt 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>+/- is really a team stat
That number doesn’t reflect on Risto’s play-
it reflects on how terrible we’ve been as a team
He’d be a stud on a good team like Tampa,
I have no doubt</div></div>
It is a team stat but the rest of his teammates put up far worse +/- stats. But I do agree he's still got potential and a change of team could make a big impact for him.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2019 at 3:13 p.m.
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Trade suggested by GMTD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMTD</b></div><div>Dumb Ass Tim Murray, who engineered the worse NHL rebuild in the history of hockey. Retention has to be over the entire duration. If Ristolainen and Callahan were being traded for each other, other players would have to be involved which would only diminish Tampa's march to the cup. That is why think Girgensons, Bogosian (with 50% retention) and 2019 3rd for Callahan a roster player chosen by BriseBois and a high pick. Girgensons is a cheaper version of Callahan, the roster player is needed for balance, and at half price Bogosian is actually a bargain. I do not know Tampa's roster as well as you, but if the Bolts have another player to fit the Callahan role, then Girgensons should not be included. I do not see how Ristolainen would help the Bolts this year, with out weakening the team elsewhere. I am just spitballin' here.</div></div>
Well Cally is currently riding the #13 fwd spot in Tampa. Paquette has really taken his game to another level this year, he's great at getting under opponent's skin & he's been contributing enough for his role. Erne is another power forward that can replace Cally's physicality. It'll be interesting to see if anything happens between TBL & BUF. Time will tell, thanks for the discussion! Cheers
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 16, 2019 at 1:55 a.m.
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Trade suggested by GMTD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMTD</b></div><div>yes Bogosian 50% retained, for Callahan and 2nd is really not much different than my suggestion just a first looks so much better LOL. Why not! Buffalo still has 3 RHD and gets a second back this year. I think Betterall would be happy to get a 2nd for Bogosian at this point. He is not doing it intentionally but he is unloading a lot of the garbage that DATM brought to the team, Guhle in the Montour trade and Bogosian would just about finish the job. You can email BriseBois and I can email Betterall.</div></div>
Who's DATM?
Yea but wouldn't the 2nd be most of the value attached to taking on Cally? I wonder if the league would allow BUF to retain just the 2019-20 portion of Risto's salary.
For sure, the email is already in the works ;)
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 15, 2019 at 6:26 p.m.
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Offseason Plan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>I did indeed. I still don't think it's enough. No matter which way you explain it the Callahan contract is a boat anchor. It'll cost you to get out of and I don't think Fortier is a high enough cost. Fortier and a 2019 2nd?</div></div>
The buyout penalty is a slap on the wrist, we'll go that route if the asking price for Cally is too high.
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Fauteuil - DG
Mar. 15, 2019 at 5:51 p.m.
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TAMPA 2020-2021
The trade is unrealistic, I'd expect a 1st-2nd rounder at most for Killer.
Joseph, Cirelli, Cernak, Sergy, all will get more money I think. Maybe even Vasy but I think he stays under 8m for the team.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 15, 2019 at 5:46 p.m.
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Trade suggested by GMTD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMTD</b></div><div>This is a two sided trade, TBL was looking for a RHD, but also would like to sign Point. I cannot see any way Betterall would retain any of Ristolainen's salary, so I switched to Bogosian. IMO (of course my opinion may be biased) half of his salary would give BriseBois more room than Ristolainen. Then in a separate trade he could trade either Gourde or Miller. As I said above Buffalo adds their third from this year, added to the value of Bogosian, added to the value of making cap space, would make the trade Bogosian and 2019 3rd for Callahan and 2019 or 20 first. Maybe Buffalo needs to add.</div></div>
So no Sergachev? Bogo & Risto's cap hits are too close to make a difference IMO, unless you meant Bogo gets half his hit retained. Risto's cap hit getting retained would be nice but tbh it's not even necessary, we'd just need to send Miller in the trade as well to make up the cap space.
But if we're talking about Bogo half retained, add on a BUF 6th/7th & I'd send Cally & a TBL 3rd. Might even make it a TBL 2nd.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 15, 2019 at 5:33 p.m.
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The Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>Dont care about the pick. I care about losing Katchouk for nothing.</div></div>
Idk the fwd prospect core is already pretty tight. There's basically a waiting list, I honestly think one of them needs to go at some point or they're gonna end of leaving later for nothing or they're gonna stay in Syracuse for way longer than they needed to.
If we trade Cally this off-season:
Roster fwds locked up for next season: Stamkos, Kuch, Miller, Gourde, Johnson, Palat, Killorn, Cirelli, Joseph. (9 fwds)
RFA roster fwds this off-season: Point, Paquette, Erne, Martel. (4 fwds)
If we resign all 4 RFAs, we're already at 13 fwds, so at least 1 more year before Katchouk could reserve his NHL spot (unless TBL injuries lead to a call up).
But if we assume Pointer is the only RFA that resigns, that leaves us w 10/12 NHL fwds. In this case, if I'm ranking the AHL fwds in "NHL-readiness", I've got Barre-Boulet as the clear #1, Mitchell Stephens #2, Raddysh #3, Volkov #4, Yan #5, Katchouk #6. And if Verhaeghe resigns, he'd take over #2.
If we assume Point, Paquette, Erne, Volkov, Stephens all resign by 2020-21, the locked up fwds would be Stammer, Kuch, Pointer, Johnson, Killorn, Palat, Gourde, Miller, Barre-Boulet, Raddysh, Stephens, Erne, Paquette, Volkov. (14 fwds).
Katchouk would crack the lineup in 2020-21 if Pointer is the only RFA fwd that resigns (unlikely). All it takes is a breakout AHL year for things to change, but as of now, losing Katchouk to shed Cally isn't something I'd lose sleep over, but quite the opposite.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 15, 2019 at 5:00 p.m.
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Trade suggested by GMTD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMTD</b></div><div>That was most enlightening. I know I so not have all of hockey knowledge so I try to glean information from contributors. I rarely disagree with comments and try to find common ground or areas of agreement (well unless I post a trade like Reinhart and Scandella for Nugent-Hopkins and Larsson and listen to the Buffalo contingent explain to me how Buffalo is getting ripped off). I know a contributor as you knows your team better than I ever would, so I listen. TBH, I do not share my fellow Sabre contingent’s view of Ristolainen. I do not think he is as bad as you initially indicated, but I did not think his future was a bright as you say it may be. That is why I thought maybe Ristolainen was not part of the trade discussion but rather Bogosian. He is steady RHD defenseman more in the mold of Colburn, but with a little more offensive skill, who could be had for a lot less than many other defensemen. I jumped to the conclusion that Betterall may have been targeting Sergachev and may have been offering Bogosian, Beaulieu (to take the LHD roster spot of Sergachev) and a first for Callahan and Sergachev (I thought because his performance level dipped from last year, maybe BriseBois would consider trading him). Then I speculated Bogosian, Girgensons and first for Callahan and Gourde or Miller. Girgensons being an inexpensive version of Callahan, Betterall retaining Bogosian’s salary would help. Finally, I thought, Bogosian (50% retention) and Girgensons for Callahan a roster player of your choice and a first. I know a first may sound great but it is really only an early second, and the addition of Bogosian plus cutting the cap may equal a first, but I may have been dreaming here, I guess it all depends on how much value Bogosian has at half his salary. Finally, go Bolts, I hope BriseBois can do half as well as Yzerman. So far I am really please with Betterall but he inherited a mess. I posted a Sabres' team and even though they are trending toward last place
That was most enlightening. I know I so not have all of hockey knowledge so I try to glean information from contributors. I rarely disagree with comments and try to find common ground or areas of agreement (well unless I post a trade like Reinhart and Scandella for Nugent-Hopkins and Larsson and listen to the Buffalo contingent explain to me how Buffalo is getting ripped off). I know a contributor as you knows your team better than I ever would, so I listen. TBH, I do not share my fellow Sabre contingent’s view of Ristolainen. I do not think he is as bad as you initially indicated, but I did not think his future was a bright as you say it may be. That is why I thought maybe Ristolainen was not part of the trade discussion but rather Bogosian. He is steady RHD defenseman more in the mold of Colburn, but with a little more offensive skill, who could be had for a lot less than many other defensemen. I jumped to the conclusion that Betterall may have been targeting Sergachev and may have been offering Bogosian, Beaulieu (to take the LHD roster spot of Sergachev) and a first for Callahan and Sergachev (I thought because his performance level dipped from last year, maybe BriseBois would consider trading him). Then I speculated Bogosian, Girgensons and first for Callahan and Gourde or Miller. Girgensons being an inexpensive version of Callahan, Betterall retaining Bogosian’s salary would help. Finally, I thought, Bogosian (50% retention) and Girgensons for Callahan a roster player of your choice and a first. I know a first may sound great but it is really only an early second, and the addition of Bogosian plus cutting the cap may equal a first, but I may have been dreaming here, I guess it all depends on how much value Bogosian has at half his salary. Finally, GO BOLTS. I love Yzerman as a player and even more as a GM. I hope BriseBois can do as well. I am really happy with Betterall but he inherited a mess. If they give decent contracts to their RFA's they will only have$8 to $11KK to sign UFA's, which is rather ironic that if Callahan is traded to Buffalo, it delays any possible playoff run by another year or more.</div></div>
So you think Risto has essentially peaked? I'd take Bogosian but would prefer Risto tbh. Realistically, what trade do you think Buff would send? Like would it be Risto or Bogo?
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 15, 2019 at 4:44 p.m.
Thread:
Realistic Worst-Case Scenario pt 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>Speaking from a Tampa (or other good team) perspective...
my guess is that in Ristolainen they see a physical defenseman who can skate the puck up ice, is pretty good on the PP, and scores 40+ points every year on one of the worst scoring teams
And then the thought with his defensive flaws...
would probably be that if u could get Ristolainen on a good team, then he’s going to be exposed so much less than on Buffalo- and that would really limit a lot of the errors he makes in his own end
And boost his offensive stats even- since on a good team, he’d be playing in the offensive zone A LOT more than the defensive end
I think that’s how Buffalo sees it also
So we’d consider trading him,
but only if someone overpays
Bc we see how good he can be, & just need to get rid of our dead weight so we can build up the team around him (and our other young talent)</div></div>
You're right, maybe I was a little hard on Risto. I do like big physical dmen. I have seen him make some sketchy plays on both ends, but I just watched his highlights to refresh my memory and I can't lie, he has made some impressive plays offensively. I think the plus / minus still has got to carry some weight on his value, but anyhow, I'd probably send Cally, 1st, Masin/Thomas, & Ingram/Domingue for Risto
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 15, 2019 at 2:14 a.m.
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Current and Former Bolts
You two ^ :tearsofjoy :tearsofjoy :tearsofjoy
<a href="/users/Hedman77" target="_blank">@Hedman77</a> <a href="/users/Ragsandbluesfan" target="_blank">@Ragsandbluesfan</a>
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 15, 2019 at 12:14 a.m.
Thread:
The Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>In the next two years we need room for Point, Vasy, Sergachev and Cernak (if Cernak has a better year next year than this year......) And Cirelli
We're gonna need more than 5.8million and whatever the cap increase is. So one of the 5million dollar guys needs to be moved along with Cally.
So if we move one of Miller/Killorn/Gourde/Palat/Johnson this season we keep Katchouk and have the Callahan contract off the books without losing assests to move it)</div></div>
For 2020-21 yes, but not 2019-20.
That's one way to do it, I'd rather keep the guy who's earning his 5m cap hit. Loosing a 3rd or 2nd round pick won't bother me.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14, 2019 at 11:53 p.m.
Thread:
The Offseason
Unless we get new players, it doesn't look like we'll need more cap space than callahan's 5.8m being freed. Are you saying you'd rather move Miller instead of Callahan if just one gets moved??
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>But thats the whole thing. Better to kove Killorn/Miller this season instead of burning a prospect and some picks to just dump Cally.
Keep Katchouk and still have the same net gain in capspace</div></div>
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14, 2019 at 11:50 p.m.
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My favorite players on each team and extras
Tampa doesn't need you either.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14, 2019 at 10:19 p.m.
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Realistic Worst-Case Scenario pt 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>A friend of mine knows a guy in Management of the Bills/Sabres (same owner)
Gives me inside information all the time that turns out correct, so i trust the stuff he tells me that was discussed or came close to happening
Yeah, Risto definitely has defensive lapses
But he also can dominate at times
Had a great game against u guys last time,
which I’m guessing had something to do with the Bolts being interested
I can’t say whether or not these talks will be revisited in the offseason
Might depend on the Bolts playoff run</div></div>
Yea winning or losing the cup is gonna be a huge factor for future team plans. I'm sure Risto isn't completely useless, he's just developed his pro game on one of the worse NHL teams to start his career. Better/new players & coaches can def change a player for the better or the worse. I just don't think he deserves the trade value that Buffalo is presumed to ask for him.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14, 2019 at 10:14 p.m.
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The Offseason
Any reason your cap hits are super specific? You got some insider stat calculator projector or something for contracts ? :tearsofjoy
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14, 2019 at 10:11 p.m.
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The Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rangsey</b></div><div>Moving Callahan isnt the fix. He'd be coming off the books when Vasy Sergs and Cernak are up for new deals.
Tampa has gotta find a way to move another big contract.</div></div>
I agree, moving Cally alone is only enough to get by next season. Miller seems to be the next who will need to go (unless someone else waives their NTC).
So Miller could get dumped this off-season or the following off-season, it doesn't really make a difference unless we're bringing in new players. Nobody else (that's untouchable) is projected to earn that much money come their next contract. But if we sign EK65 this off-season, Miller would need to be traded.
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Armchair-GM
Mar. 14, 2019 at 9:11 p.m.
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Trade suggested by GMTD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMTD</b></div><div>Thank you for taking the time to express your point of view. I agree with your comments, If I can whisper in your ear, I hope Betterall can get a good deal from a GM who thinks more highly of Ristolainen than I do. This I know DATM destroyed the Buffalo defense, and Ristolainen on any other team would not play over 20 minutes of ice time in any game. He is not as good as Tory Krug and I think if we have this conversation next year, Buffalo fans will rank Montour ahead of him. I agreed with your first assessment and I agree with you now as well.</div></div>
No problem, I love discussing hockey with other knowledgeable fans that know to how to converse without being a jack@ss lmao.
Who knows what the NHL GMs think of Risto, but after reading what the Capfriendly community has to say, it sounds like he's got more than enough hype & value attached to his name. So I wouldn't be too nervous about Betterall failing to receive a fair return for Risto. I know I pointed out his negatives, but he's still got a bit of arguments on his side (most attempting to defend/refute negative arguments like mine lol). He's still only 24 (far from old but he's almost, if not already, past his prime). If his end of season stats were increasing every year, he'd probably have a higher trade value. At least for me, if I was trading for him. But at the same time, he really didn't take long at all to start producing in the NHL... It's pretty impressive for an 8th overall pick to make his NHL debut the following year (Buffalo fans might've wished he stayed down another year lol, but you get my point). And on top of that, it only took him his 2nd full NHL season to score 40+ points (might've been his best year all around). Hedman didn't reach .5/ppg (points per game) until his 4th season. However, Hedman has since posted .742 ppg in his most recent 430 NHL games, which is why I brought up & determined that Risto's "plateau" of finalized season stats might be a minor "peak-indicator" that other GMs will most likely consider when negotiating for him... But Heddy's also 4 years older, so it really isn't fair to rule out a player's "peak-ETA" until age 26 at the soonest. Jeff Petry was drafted in 2006. Made his NHL Debut in 2010-11. Posted his career high for single season pts with 25 pts in 2012. That was his best yr until 2016-17, when he posted 3 solid seasons in a row with 28 pts, 42 pts, & 41 pts this yr (season hasn't ended yet). So his peak was (or for now is) age 31. Granted he's the #2 worst plus / minus leader behind Risto, he's proven he can put up 40 pts. I was just trying to use a good dman example, there's plenty of other notable NHL late bloomers.
So Risto has all of that available for arguing his worth lol. He's also top 20 in NHL defenseman points since 2016-17. And clearly he's a big kid @ 6'4 215 lbs, so he's got the "can't teach size" argument too. You can build a pretty appealing resume for the guy, these are the thing's I'd bring up if I were trading him.
But like I said before, the biggest factor for him specifically is that plus / minus. And I'll be the first to admit it, plus / minus stats can very much paint an ugly picture on the stat-sheet's of quality NHL players. Especially with how Buffalo has performed over the past 5-10 years (no offense to BUF, we all gotta rebuild at some point). But ultimately, if you're looking at the names on the negative portion of plus / minus dman leaders in the whole NHL over past 10 years... Not only is he the most negative overall, he has a lead, a big lead. Only 3 guys with -100 or worse... -102, -110, & -136 for Risto.
I think he'll be able to retrieve at least a 1st/2nd rounder + roster player / solid prospect. Depends on the teams involved and their needs. Sorry for rambling on hahaha. GO BOLTS!
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