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Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 14, 2022 at 9:19 p.m.

Thread: 2023 Wings - Getting to the cap floor

Flames pay to move Monahan or kiss Gaudreau goodbye.

Monahan hasn’t been “healthy” in years, is coming off another surgery, and has a big cap hit so yeah, he’s a cap dump with some upside.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2022 at 9:42 a.m.

Thread: Mega Deal

I've been saying for a while that I think Trouba would waive for Detroit. There are tons of naysayers on this site who will tell you otherwise though. They argue:

1. He has a NMC

Forgetting that he can still be traded if he agrees to it, which he likely would to go back home to Michigan

2. His girlfriend went to school/works in NYC

Healthcare is a booming industry and NYC is not the only place she can find a good job

3. Jacob himself won't want to leave NY

People's situations change all the time. You never know, maybe now a few years later he wants to be closer to his family.

Just putting that out there because people get crazy about any ACGM Trouba trades lol.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 10, 2022 at 11:51 a.m.

Thread: Big Moves

Can not see Wings giving up a 2nd for a 1 year player coming off hip surgery.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 10, 2022 at 1:45 p.m.

Thread: What do red wings fan say to this

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rednwhite</b></div><div>Seider isn't avaliable, for anyone....</div></div>

I know, I said in description this trade is intended to figure out his value. But hey on NHL 22 I offered Turcotte and Walker and got Sieder and Staal.:tearsofjoy

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 9, 2022 at 2:47 p.m.

Thread: Another Wasted Season Playoffs in 2024

They'll have to make some signings, both to make the cap floor and because I dont see Veleno as 2C/not all these young D will be ready to play. Realistically, this team can't just slow roll their way through the rebuild anymore either. Have to make some big signings eventually.

I think one of the obvious ones is Copp if they can pry him out of NY. They'll also need to get someone with some experience at LD, Petterson (PIT) and Schmidt (WPG) are always popular but maybe Yzerman can swing and get Provorov or Hague this year.

Personally I think 8x$8.5 is too much for Larkin unless he takes another step.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2022 at 2:24 p.m.

Thread: What does it Take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rednwhite</b></div><div>I never said it would happen. I know Yzerman will not move future assets at this point. Just something I would like to see. I overpaid but think it improves the team now and it is my AGM, so beat it.</div></div>

Im not so sure about that, Yzerman has already spent some draft capital and prospects before: 2nd for Leddy, Moved up in the draft, Used picks to acquire Stephens and Erne, traded prospect Alec Regula.
I wouldn´t personally do this trade, but there are many Wings fans who hates the idea of traiding. I don´t get it.

Yzerman has won almost every trade he has made. I think there are coming even bigger trades soon when the team is trending up. People also forget that every prospect hasn´t room on the roster and some of them has to be moved.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2022 at 2:08 p.m.

Thread: What does it Take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>This trade is insane!

Cirelli has a salary of 7.2 millions this year. In order to extend him you'll have to offer more than that.

You want to give up 5 assets for him in Suter (our best defensive centre), Wallinder (a top prospect), two second round draft picks (in deep drafts), and a retention slot to boot (of which we only have two).

It would be much much cheaper to just sign Trocheck or Copp or someone else in the offseason.

I'll give you 100:1 odds on any bet over $10,000 that this trade doesn't happen.</div></div>
For players who are on expiring contracts that were signed after July 10, 2020:
The Qualifying Offer is limited to 120% of their previous contracts annual average (AAV)

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2022 at 1:50 p.m.

Thread: What does it Take

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>Cirelli scored 1.49 points per 60 even strength this season.
Suter scored 1.63 points per 60 even strength this season.

You want to trade Suter (with retention) and 3 other assets for a player that performs worse, is on an expiring contract, and cost twice as much. Why?</div></div>

Do you honestly think Cirelli's value comes from his offensive production?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2022 at 11:35 a.m.

Thread: What does a Monahan deal look like

monahan + a 3rd for a 7th

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2022 at 1:31 p.m.

Thread: IF Larkin wants out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYRxLundqvist</b></div><div>You're over valuing Larkin in most of these trades</div></div>

And you are underating Larkin. Yzerman ain´t trading a 25y old 1st line center for less than these mock trades are suggesting. Larkin is the teams Captain and the only good center they have.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2022 at 1:37 p.m.

Thread: IF Larkin wants out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYRxLundqvist</b></div><div>You're over valuing Larkin in most of these trades</div></div>

larkin’s a really really good player. assuming he’ll sign an extension i don’t see how any of these are a significant overvaluation.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 26, 2022 at 1:58 p.m.

Thread: Worst contracts atm

Trouba might be a bit overpaid but he's productive and huge on the ice, I'd take him. Matheson is fine.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 26, 2022 at 1:35 p.m.

Thread: Time to Make a Trade

Lundell and Thomas just flat out won't be traded, Pettersson would probably be way too expensive, Mercer is questionable as to whether he'll be good enough to support a lethal 1C/2C punch.

PLD is your best bet, probably looking at 8OA + to get him though (and this is coming from an impartial fan)

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 19, 2022 at 10:50 a.m.

Thread: Who gets the better player

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>slapshot723</b></div><div>In my opinion, Wahlstrom has shown more than Zadina so far. However, I think Zadina has more potential. I think in this situation, both guys stick with what they have.</div></div>

Wahlstrom has that cannon shot. I'd take him. But if Zadina can ever figure out how to score, he's better all around.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 19, 2022 at 10:48 a.m.

Thread: Who gets the better player

You are definitely going to hear it from the Isles fans.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 19, 2022 at 10:13 a.m.

Thread: Hi Forsberg Bye Miller

Not sure on the Detroit trade. Like to see Zadina with a new coach and center before a trade. It would look better if you removed the 23 4th.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18, 2022 at 2:44 p.m.

Thread: Hughes x3

untouchable, but it would be cool if they all played for the same team

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18, 2022 at 2:23 p.m.

Thread: Thoughts on trading up

I can’t see it happening. Best case pick Lekkerimaki, Geekie or Lambert and develop them into an elite top 6 player

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17, 2022 at 10:30 a.m.

Thread: Devils Fans Is this Enough to Move Back

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rednwhite</b></div><div>What is the significant piece it would take?</div></div>

Probably 8OA + either Vrana or Bertuzzi and that’s a maybe. Devils need a wow factor in a trade

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 16, 2022 at 5:57 p.m.

Thread: Just one more tank

Detroit declines, not trading a RD, who we have no replacement for, for a LD, where we have 8 prospects.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 17, 2022 at 7:36 a.m.

Thread: Detroit Red Wings 22

Fabbri should be on LTIR, and Smith/Erne should not get roster spots over Veleno/Sundqvist/Zadina. Soderblom is unlikely to head straight to the NHL also.

That said, it's nice to see an ACGM that's holistic, with fairly realistic FA contracts, without any trades.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 9, 2022 at 2:38 p.m.

Thread: Building a Line for JT

Detroit declines. I'd rather keep Bert.

Forum: The BoxMay 9, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.

Thread: What is the best site for comparing players advanced stats.

I'd say the "Big Four" of public analytics sites are:

HockeyViz.com

Evolving-Hockey.com

MoneyPuck.com

NaturalStatTrick.com

HV and EH have paywalls for their more advanced work, but it's well-worth the money in my opinion.

There's also JFresh/TopDown who have some great work out there as well, but they don't have a website, just access through JFresh's Patreon. You can also see the raw data on Patrick Bacon's tableau.

AllThreeZones.com is Corey Sznajder's manual tracking project and is also really cool too, though it also requires a subscription.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 5, 2022 at 10:35 a.m.

Thread: Trades Im sick of seeing that wont happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rednwhite</b></div><div>Disagree. I don't think I have seen a single trade on here that actually happened in Detroit. Yzerman thinks differently then all of the AGMs here.</div></div>

I think you could say the same thing about 99.99% of all trades for all teams on here.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 5, 2022 at 10:32 a.m.

Thread: Trades Im sick of seeing that wont happen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Benzino204</b></div><div>The only bad thing about the Schmidt trade proposal is his NTC. The value is there, but would he waive for Detroit?</div></div>

I would be very surprised if Yzerman brings in Schmidt, who will be going into his age 31 season and has a cap hit of nearly $6 million for three more years. Left D is an issue, at least short term, but they've invested so much draft capital on that position I don't think they acquire anyone a on a deal longer than two years unless it's a guy like Pettersson who is younger and has a more movable contract when the prospects are ready. Edvinsson, in all likelihood, will be on the roster next year. Johansson has a chance to make the club sooner rather than later, and they have a good number of other LHD draftees that they think highly of in Wallinder, Buium, Viro, Sebrango, and McIsaac.

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