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(MTL / TOR) - Rychel, Valiev for Plekanec, Baun

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Feb 25, 2018 at 11:54
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A trade between Montreal Canadiens and Toronto Maple Leafs has been confirmed.
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Feb 25, 2018 at 11:55
#2
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Feb 25, 2018 at 11:57
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Habs4Ever
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Not saying the Habs robbed the Leafs, but the Habs robbed the leafs

Montreal :
Gets a 2nd (to go with the 3 other ones),
Kerby Rychel who at worst is an Elite AHL player who can really help our disastrous team in the AHL
Rinat Valiev (Top 4 guy in the AHL who could potientially become a decent bottom pairing defender in the NHL

Toronto
Tomas Plekenec A good 3rd line center, but with the Leafs will play 4th line and top PK minutes
Kyle Baun A bottom 6 AHL guy who probably wont even make the marlies considering how good they are
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Feb 25, 2018 at 11:57
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Ah... The end of an era. Oh well, I'm happy that we got something for him unlike Koivu. I'm kinda surprised we traded with the leafs.

Let's go tanking!
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Feb 25, 2018 at 11:59
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Quoting: Hockeylover360
Ah... The end of an era. Oh well, I'm happy that we got something for him unlike Koivu. I'm kinda surprised we traded with the leafs.

Let's go tanking!


I honestly wouldnt be surprised if we got him back in FA considering how **** we are on center. I dont even know our center depth chart anymore (Legit Centers)

Danault
Shaw (I dont even think hes a natural center)
Shaw
Froese
Mccarron
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Feb 25, 2018 at 12:00
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Surprised the Leafs gave up this much to a divisional rival.
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:00
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
I honestly wouldnt be surprised if we got him back in FA considering how **** we are on center. I dont even know our center depth chart anymore (Legit Centers)

Danault
Shaw (I dont even think hes a natural center)
Shaw
Froese
Mccarron


Could happen...
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:02
#8
Oui non grille-pain
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
I honestly wouldnt be surprised if we got him back in FA considering how **** we are on center. I dont even know our center depth chart anymore (Legit Centers)

Danault
Shaw (I dont even think hes a natural center)
Shaw
Froese
Mccarron


Neither Logan nor Andrew can really play C anymore.
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:04
#9
Habs4Ever
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Quoting: Icegirl
Neither Logan nor Andrew can really play C anymore.


Isnt Andrew Shaw our best % in the dot though? I know we are god awful, Im just hoping Evans is decent at winning draws. Poehling is staying in University for another year. I dont think we really have anybody who can step in
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:04
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Wow, a better return than I expected, Bergevin deserves credit on this one. Many people assumed we'd get a 2nd for Pleks so its right on the money. As others pointed out, even if Rychel and Valiev only amount to being fringe NHLers, Montreal really needs help throughout their system, including being more competitive at the AHL level so our prospects don't develop in a constant losing environment. So win for that as well.
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:06
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Habs4Ever
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Quoting: MountRoyal514
Wow, a better return than I expected, Bergevin deserves credit on this one. Many people assumed we'd get a 2nd for Pleks so its right on the money. As others pointed out, even if Rychel and Valiev only amount to being fringe NHLers, Montreal really needs help throughout their system, including being more competitive at the AHL level so our prospects don't develop in a constant losing environment. So win for that as well.


Bob Mckenzie reported 2 or 3 days ago that Plekenec would only fetch a 4th so im not complaining lol
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:06
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Oui non grille-pain
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Isnt Andrew Shaw our best % in the dot though? I know we are god awful, Im just hoping Evans is decent at winning draws. Poehling is staying in University for another year. I dont think we really have anybody who can step in


I thought he played mostly wing this year. Am I wrong? (But Logan is exclusively a RW nowadays.)
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:09
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Bob Mckenzie reported 2 or 3 days ago that Plekenec would only fetch a 4th so im not complaining lol


I love Bobby Mac but damn this is one instance where I'm so glad he was dead wrong ?
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Feb 25, 2018 at 12:09
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Good return for the Habs but it's so fucked, Pleky with a Leafs jersey is ******* weird af.
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Feb 25, 2018 at 12:09
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Quoting: Icegirl
I thought he played mostly wing this year. Am I wrong? (But Logan is exclusively a RW nowadays.)


Havent watched much Habs hockey recently cause habs hockey makes me depressed. But when I did watch, Andrew was always Center and Logan was rotating betweein RW/C
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Feb 25, 2018 at 12:09
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Quoting: BridgewatersFinest
I love Bobby Mac but damn this is one instance where I'm so glad he was dead wrong ?


Quoting: BridgewatersFinest
I love Bobby Mac but damn this is one instance where I'm so glad he was dead wrong ?


Market on Rentals this year is nuts
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:10
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Quoting: HockeyWise
Good return for the Habs but it's so fucked, Pleky with a Leafs jersey is ******* weird af.


Sad because I cant cheer for him to win a Cup this year frown
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:12
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I love this deal. I love this deal so much.

Pleky is a really underrated player. It'll be great to have him come back in July. Have no doubts he will. But this is the move that MB had to make. I've been saying for a month or more, not trading Plekanec would have been a failure of management given his value and the fact that he's on an expiring contract. Everybody wants him to come back and get his thousand games in Montreal. That'll happen, and, we got a good draft pick and two good depth players. I'm going to call it a fair trade right now, because the Leafs also get something that they really need, but, this is definitely leaning on Montreal side as far as winning the trade.
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:13
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Habs4Ever
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Quoting: BridgewatersFinest
I love this deal. I love this deal so much.

Pleky is a really underrated player. It'll be great to have him come back in July. Have no doubts he will. But this is the move that MB had to make. I've been saying for a month or more, not trading Plekanec would have been a failure of management given his value and the fact that he's on an expiring contract. Everybody wants him to come back and get his thousand games in Montreal. That'll happen, and, we got a good draft pick and two good depth players. I'm going to call it a fair trade right now, because the Leafs also get something that they really need, but, this is definitely leaning on Montreal side as far as winning the trade.


I dont know, I feel like their strongest Position is at Center. It wouldve been more beneficiary that they used those assets to get a top 4 defensemen opposed to overpaying for somebody who is only going to be on their 4th line
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Feb 25, 2018 at 12:14
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I'm a little surprised they got that much for a couple months of Plekanec.
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Feb 25, 2018 at 12:21
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
I dont know, I feel like their strongest Position is at Center. It wouldve been more beneficiary that they used those assets to get a top 4 defensemen opposed to overpaying for somebody who is only going to be on their 4th line


I don't disagree, I just think they're going to use JvR as that chip to cash in for a Top 4. As far as where Pleky plays, I mean, I think maybe Toronto is reacting to Boston getting Nash, grabbing a guy in Pleky who knows Boston well, plays their stars well, and matchup dependant, could see more ice time than Bozak in tight Playoff games. Of course I'm only speculating. I'm just appreciating this deal for Montreal.
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Feb 25, 2018 at 12:33
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we can.. and we will
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So Rychel and Valiev don’t really have much of a future. Bu I don’t understand why Toronto did this. We needed a defenseman not another forward. This might mean Bozak or JVR get traded.
Feb 25, 2018 at 12:36
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In all fairness, even if MTL got a lot more than what was expected, TOR is making a solid move for the playoffs that’s designed to go up against teams like BOS and TBL. Plekanec has spent most of his career matching up against both those teams best players. Babcock is going to have the edge in the matchups game with having an option of Plecky on his 4th line, and moving him above guys like Bozak when the need to defend a lead.
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Feb 25, 2018 at 12:40
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Leafs now have great centre depth. Toronto is notorious for blowing leads, and Plekanec is a experienced and responsible forward that can take heavy minutes come playoff time, he can provide much needed stability to a young forward group.
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Feb 25, 2018 at 12:40
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Right now I say Montreal won this trade by just a little.

Plekanec’s and the Leafs performance in the playoffs will determine which direction this trade can slide when you’re dealing with a short term rental
 
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