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Jan 17 at 2:10
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Jan 17 at 2:13
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Wow a fringe Ahler trade! Pittsburgh wins as they get the younger guy.
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Jan 17 at 2:17
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Pens acquire a relatively unknown young defensemen from a western conference team? Is this deja vu?
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Jan 17 at 2:22
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Intriguing Trade
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Jan 17 at 2:23
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subsequently getting younger... y didn't Pitts ask for Honka?
Jan 17 at 2:24
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Quoting: CoraStorm
subsequently getting younger... y didn't Pitts ask for Honka?


I don't think Honka can actually play until next season.
Jan 17 at 2:24
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Quoting: CoraStorm
subsequently getting younger... y didn't Pitts ask for Honka?


The issue with Dallas n draft picks.
Jan 17 at 2:25
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Don't think either player will ever become NHL players. AHL trade.
Jan 17 at 2:26
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Two Euro players that signed in North America but didn't quite make it. Minor league flip to see if either clicks. Most likely both head back over the pond next year.
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Jan 17 at 2:27
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Great trade for the Pens! Get a good sized D who's playing well in the AHL and young-ish
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Jan 17 at 2:46
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This is actually the kind of trade that I would like to pick a GM's brain about. Non-NHL prospects.

Did the Penguins contact the Stars saying that they needed some AHL D depth and the Stars had a lot, so what do you want for who? Did the Stars want some AHL F depth and contacted the Penguins?
Jan 17 at 5:30
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Quoting: Yojimbo
This is actually the kind of trade that I would like to pick a GM's brain about. Non-NHL prospects.

Did the Penguins contact the Stars saying that they needed some AHL D depth and the Stars had a lot, so what do you want for who? Did the Stars want some AHL F depth and contacted the Penguins?


Considering both teams were in the same place when this happened and the guys just swapped lockers, this odd exchange might have happened in person.
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Jan 17 at 6:45
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I think JR made a very good DEPTH move here to acquire a 23 year old BIG Swedish defensemen for an AHL player with a bad plus/minus (-20). Also, JR might be looking to move Jack Johnson to a team like the Islanders, Toronto or Carolina who have ALL lost a top defensemen for the season/longterm due to injury. NHL quality playing defensemen are at a premium right now and our closet is stocked right now for the immediate need if teams come asking. Keep in mind that John Marino was apparently NOT going anywhere at all when Edmonton had him and we can see what happened there. Keep an eye on JR because something else is in the works.
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Jan 18 at 1:28
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Quoting: jasondomitrovic
I think JR made a very good DEPTH move here to acquire a 23 year old BIG Swedish defensemen for an AHL player with a bad plus/minus (-20). Also, JR might be looking to move Jack Johnson to a team like the Islanders, Toronto or Carolina who have ALL lost a top defensemen for the season/longterm due to injury. NHL quality playing defensemen are at a premium right now and our closet is stocked right now for the immediate need if teams come asking. Keep in mind that John Marino was apparently NOT going anywhere at all when Edmonton had him and we can see what happened there. Keep an eye on JR because something else is in the works.


While I think we all hope he moves JJ.......I think the reality is Schultz is going to be the next defenseman out the door. He's not a 3RD. But that's the only role for him here.
Jan 18 at 4:29
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Quoting: pharrow
While I think we all hope he moves JJ.......I think the reality is Schultz is going to be the next defenseman out the door. He's not a 3RD. But that's the only role for him here.


You could be correct although he would bring VERY high trade value right now because there are plenty of playoff teams that have lost a top D man and Schultz can play with anyone and anywhere. VERY good overall D man.
Jan 20 at 3:51
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PIT wins every trade...pretty much every trade.
Jan 20 at 4:03
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Quoting: Brian2016
PIT wins every trade...pretty much every trade.


Yes, PIT won the Kessel trade. They're a better team this season. Malkin is better, and happier. PIT is now a great defensive team.
Jan 21 at 12:59
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Quoting: Yojimbo
This is actually the kind of trade that I would like to pick a GM's brain about. Non-NHL prospects.

Did the Penguins contact the Stars saying that they needed some AHL D depth and the Stars had a lot, so what do you want for who? Did the Stars want some AHL F depth and contacted the Penguins?
I'd presume this sort of thing happens more at the AHL level. The WB/S Penguins and the Texas Stars presumably have GMs that aren't Jim Rutherford and Jim Nill, respectively. They, too, obviously make trades. This probably explains NHL trades of "random guy for 'Future Considerations'"; the guy going the other way is likely on an AHL contract, so they obviously don't pop up in NHL player contract databases.
Jan 21 at 1:30
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Quoting: DragonRaptorHybrid
I'd presume this sort of thing happens more at the AHL level. The WB/S Penguins and the Texas Stars presumably have GMs that aren't Jim Rutherford and Jim Nill, respectively. They, too, obviously make trades. This probably explains NHL trades of "random guy for 'Future Considerations'"; the guy going the other way is likely on an AHL contract, so they obviously don't pop up in NHL player contract databases.


Yeah, I believe that Bill Guerin was the GM of WBS while he was assistant GM for Pittsburgh, before moving to the Wild...

It's just the added depth of the trades with if the guy is good enough for another AHL team to want, how does the original parent NHL team "feel" about it? Is he a call up option being moved for someone that we will never call up? I just think that there might be more discussion put into a trade like this than many NHL-level player trades.
Jan 21 at 1:41
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Quoting: Yojimbo
Yeah, I believe that Bill Guerin was the GM of WBS while he was assistant GM for Pittsburgh, before moving to the Wild...

It's just the added depth of the trades with if the guy is good enough for another AHL team to want, how does the original parent NHL team "feel" about it? Is he a call up option being moved for someone that we will never call up? I just think that there might be more discussion put into a trade like this than many NHL-level player trades.
it's probably the same amount of discussion, just aimed at a different section of the organization. With the level of the players we're talking about in this particular trade, I think the only reason the parent NHL club even got involved was because the players involved were signed to NHL contracts, and, even then, it was probably more of a bureaucratic "hey, sign off on this, pl0xkthxbye" type of conversation.

Mike Vellucci is HC and GM of the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins. He sees that Oula Palve isn't really panning out for his team the way he'd have hoped. At the same time, he's not too happy with his defensive depth. He's had injury issues on defense; Pierre-Olivier Joseph missed a good amount of this season with injuries, I think, so the defense is a bunch of vets (David Warsofsky, Zach Trotman, Kevin Czuczman) and a few other young guys (Niclas Almari, Matt Abt, and Jon Lizotte). The W-B/S Penguins and the Texas Stars were playing a series last week, and so Vellucci probably talked to Scott White, GM of the Texas Stars, and said, "hey, whaddya think about a trade?" like most GMs do. they talked it over, agreed to something, and then each GM contacted the GM of the NHL parent club and got the go-ahead.
 
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