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Seabrook to DET

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Team: 2020-21 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 4, 2020
Published: Jul. 4, 2020
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DET
  1. Beaudin, Nicolas
  2. Seabrook, Brent
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (CHI)
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CHI
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        Dekeyser is still traded, bought out, and could potentially resign with DET.
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        Jul. 4, 2020 at 6:43 a.m.
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        Kyle from Chicago
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        For anyone wondering, the trades to Vegas are both notes applying to the DET trade.

        Unless you would like to think that CHI trades a piece of paper with those exact words written on it to Vegas.

        That's okay too…
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        Jul. 4, 2020 at 7:32 a.m.
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        No you keep him ,
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        Jul. 4, 2020 at 8:04 a.m.
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        Quoting: Stan_Bowman
        For anyone wondering, the trades to Vegas are both notes applying to the DET trade.

        Unless you would like to think that CHI trades a piece of paper with those exact words written on it to Vegas.

        That's okay too…


        I don't think you need the explanation the way you have it set up is very clear. I don't know if you are taking DeKeyser to help off set some of Seabrook's contract but he is very well liked among fans and the organization. I don't see Detroit moving him at all he is their most dependable defenseman. Detroit has 11 players signed for next season and with Mantha, Bertuzzi and Fabbri that they must resign. They have to sign a LD because DeKeyser and Nemeth are the only 2 defensemen on the left side maybe Cholowski figures it out this season and McIsaac isn't even near ready. They need someone to back up Bernier. With Neilson and Abdelkader on un movable contracts. I really don't see Detroit being able to afford Seabrook's contract.
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        Jul. 4, 2020 at 8:15 a.m.
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        Yeah Detroit declines, Danny DeKeyser has a better contract. Seabrooks is atrocious.
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 8:21 a.m.
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        So you take Dekeyser and we take Seabrook. Dekeyser has 2 years left at 5 million where Seabrook has 4 years at 6.88 million.

        This deal is bad for the Wings in 3 ways:

        One we are taking on over 13 million in cap hit for the remaining 2 years not covered by Hawks acquisition of Dekeyser. That means we have to allot the money to LTIR before the start of the season, which limits what we can do in free agency.

        Two if we want to but out Seabrook the penalty is twice the remaining years of the existing deal or 8 years he is on our books compared to Dekeyser which would only be 4 years.

        Finally, the market is set. A 1st for a an expiring deal, see Marleau and Backes, and you want us to eat more cap and for longer for a prospect and a pick, which is not a 1st. No Deal.

        Lately on Cap Freindly with reports that the cap will remain the same for next 2 years and only inch up in the 3rd year, people have posted their cap dump to the Wings for nothing. Eriksson from Vancouver for a 3rd and 4th, Lucic for 2nd and a 3rd. To dump cap it will cost and now more than ever it will really cost because the cap is not going up, so please stop.posting cap dump to Wings for nothing.

        PS. your idea was not bad just short the remaining two years.
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        Jul. 4, 2020 at 9:05 a.m.
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        Agree with mikearky above. Besides it's a hard sell to the fans and the players that a teams takes on "bad cap" for years, which reduces a team ability to make a immediate improvement.
        Besides Seabrooks's NTC nixes any deal likely.
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 9:15 a.m.
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        Quoting: palhal
        Agree with mikearky above. Besides it's a hard sell to the fans and the players that a teams takes on "bad cap" for years, which reduces a team ability to make a immediate improvement.
        Besides Seabrooks's NTC nixes any deal likely.


        Doubt he wants to stay as the 7th D in Chicago, which its looking like he will.
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 9:16 a.m.
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        The problem is seabs won't waive. Realistically we are tied to him for another 2 years. In 2 years he has to submit a 5 team trade list and in 3 years he must submit a 10 team trade list. At that point he will only have 2 years or 1 year left on his deal, and hopefully by then the cap has gone up a bit and that cap hit will be movable. Of ourse it only works if a team with a ton of cap space is on his list of acceptable trade teams. If it's all contenders we will be stuck all 4 years.
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        Jul. 4, 2020 at 9:31 a.m.
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        Quoting: Stan_Bowman
        Doubt he wants to stay as the 7th D in Chicago, which its looking like he will.


        Am overpaid 7th Dman that shoots right? According to many CapFriendly followers he would be perfect for the LeafsConfused For cap purposes, Kapanen and Johnsson for Seabrook would be a ideal trade for both teams
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 9:38 a.m.
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        Honestly make the 2nd an unprotected 1st and I'd consider
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 9:48 a.m.
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        I think the Red Wings should try and take on at least one bad contract this offseason for futures. I would prefer to go after one with less term like Eriksson, Boychuk, etc. but Seabrook could work as well if we were compensated enough. It would probably cost a 1st + top prospect and maybe even more. This would be a lot to give up for the Blackhawks but otherwise it wouldn’t be worth it for the Red Wings.
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 10:12 a.m.
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        Quoting: aedoran
        I don't think you need the explanation the way you have it set up is very clear. I don't know if you are taking DeKeyser to help off set some of Seabrook's contract but he is very well liked among fans and the organization. I don't see Detroit moving him at all he is their most dependable defenseman. Detroit has 11 players signed for next season and with Mantha, Bertuzzi and Fabbri that they must resign. They have to sign a LD because DeKeyser and Nemeth are the only 2 defensemen on the left side maybe Cholowski figures it out this season and McIsaac isn't even near ready. They need someone to back up Bernier. With Neilson and Abdelkader on un movable contracts. I really don't see Detroit being able to afford Seabrook's contract.


        Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
        Yeah Detroit declines, Danny DeKeyser has a better contract. Seabrooks is atrocious.


        Quoting: mikearky
        So you take Dekeyser and we take Seabrook. Dekeyser has 2 years left at 5 million where Seabrook has 4 years at 6.88 million.

        This deal is bad for the Wings in 3 ways:

        One we are taking on over 13 million in cap hit for the remaining 2 years not covered by Hawks acquisition of Dekeyser. That means we have to allot the money to LTIR before the start of the season, which limits what we can do in free agency.

        Two if we want to but out Seabrook the penalty is twice the remaining years of the existing deal or 8 years he is on our books compared to Dekeyser which would only be 4 years.

        Finally, the market is set. A 1st for a an expiring deal, see Marleau and Backes, and you want us to eat more cap and for longer for a prospect and a pick, which is not a 1st. No Deal.

        Lately on Cap Freindly with reports that the cap will remain the same for next 2 years and only inch up in the 3rd year, people have posted their cap dump to the Wings for nothing. Eriksson from Vancouver for a 3rd and 4th, Lucic for 2nd and a 3rd. To dump cap it will cost and now more than ever it will really cost because the cap is not going up, so please stop.posting cap dump to Wings for nothing.

        PS. your idea was not bad just short the remaining two years.


        Dekayser is a bad contract as well and Detroit also gets Nick Beaudin who would be their best LHD prospect + a 2nd round pick. That’s an easy win for Detroit. Not to mention Seabs more likely than not will finish out his contract on the LTIR.
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        Jul. 4, 2020 at 10:21 a.m.
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        Quoting: mhockey91
        Dekayser is a bad contract as well and Detroit also gets Nick Beaudin who would be their best LHD prospect + a 2nd round pick. That’s an easy win for Detroit. Not to mention Seabs more likely than not will finish out his contract on the LTIR.


        They could even resign Dekeyser to a low AAV contract to bring him back as a fan favorite.

        I think there's going to be a breaking point with Seabrook soon, and I think him taking the season off to rehab is his last stand as a Blackhawk. He ”knows” he can still be a nhl level D, but probably not for Chicago.
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        Jul. 4, 2020 at 10:25 a.m.
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        Quoting: mhockey91
        Dekayser is a bad contract as well and Detroit also gets Nick Beaudin who would be their best LHD prospect + a 2nd round pick. That’s an easy win for Detroit. Not to mention Seabs more likely than not will finish out his contract on the LTIR.




        Yeah well sorry i'd gladly take 2x5 of Danny DeKeyser then 4x6.88 of Brent Seabrook there's no comparison. Both are bad contracts we all agree on that.
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 10:27 a.m.
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        Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
        Yeah well sorry i'd gladly take 2x5 of Danny DeKeyser then 4x6.88 of Brent Seabrook there's no comparison. Both are bad contracts we all agree on that.


        I think in reality Seabrook contract will probably be 1 or 2 years before he hits LTIR. Highly unlikely he finishes out his contract. Plus you get a great LHD prospect in Beaudin and a 2nd. Seems like a steal from Detroit POV
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 10:34 a.m.
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        Quoting: mhockey91
        I think in reality Seabrook contract will probably be 1 or 2 years before he hits LTIR. Highly unlikely he finishes out his contract. Plus you get a great LHD prospect in Beaudin and a 2nd. Seems like a steal from Detroit POV


        He would be a nice mentor for the kids, Just don't need RD that are we're very well set at.
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        Jul. 4, 2020 at 10:35 a.m.
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        Quoting: mhockey91
        Dekayser is a bad contract as well and Detroit also gets Nick Beaudin who would be their best LHD prospect + a 2nd round pick. That’s an easy win for Detroit. Not to mention Seabs more likely than not will finish out his contract on the LTIR.


        I think McIsaac better than Beaudin but it just opinion. Honestly the only way I see thins going through is if you switch out DeKeyser for Abdelkader. But don't think Chicago would like that.
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 1:46 p.m.
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        Quoting: mhockey91
        Dekayser is a bad contract as well and Detroit also gets Nick Beaudin who would be their best LHD prospect + a 2nd round pick. That’s an easy win for Detroit. Not to mention Seabs more likely than not will finish out his contract on the LTIR.


        Dekeyser is not a bad contract. He's a solid 4-5 D in his prime who's overpaid by about 1M.
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 3:04 p.m.
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        I think McIsaac better than Beaudin but it just opinion. Honestly the only way I see thins going through is if you switch out DeKeyser for Abdelkader. But don't think Chicago would like that.


        I mean they’re Debatable. Regardless he would be a welcome addition to that prospect pool. And no, they wouldn’t want Abs
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 3:07 p.m.
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        Dekeyser is not a bad contract. He's a solid 4-5 D in his prime who's overpaid by about 1M.


        No contending team would take him for free. He’s a bottom pair guy making 5 million. He’s a cap dump, but Detroit doesn’t have any cap issues atm so they have no need to move him. Least he eats up minutes
        Jul. 4, 2020 at 5:45 p.m.
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        Edited Jul. 4, 2020 at 6:02 p.m.
        Quoting: mhockey91
        I mean they’re Debatable. Regardless he would be a welcome addition to that prospect pool. And no, they wouldn’t want Abs


        I completely agree. It's just Seabrook really doesn't have any thing left he is 110% anchor. Look at Keith his play starts to slip somebody in the media mentions that and al of a sudden they have the Keith from 10 yrs ago.
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