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IDK, a passing thought. Minnesota probably has to add but whatevs.
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 11:26 a.m.
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    Wouldn't necessarily say no to either, but I'm not sure Brannstrom, being another LD, is someone we should be targeting.
    I also think Guerin would stay far away from Kravtsov for his issues, but that's probably another conversation.
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 11:38 a.m.
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    Ottawa might accept once Greenway comes back from IR.
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 11:43 a.m.
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    Yes from Ottawa

    Sens management/coaching are very stubborn and Brannstrom is not someone they have in their plans. Might as well use hm to get a player they will use. I like Greenway and think he would be needed to make the bottom-6 better
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 11:52 a.m.
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    Yes from Ottawa

    Sens management/coaching are very stubborn and Brannstrom is not someone they have in their plans. Might as well use hm to get a player they will use. I like Greenway and think he would be needed to make the bottom-6 better


    What if Greenway is Sanford 2.0 lol
    Nov. 10, 2021 at 11:53 a.m.
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    What if Greenway is Sanford 2.0 lol


    I don't know what this means but Greenway is definitely not a top six player.
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.
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    I wonder if maybe Kaprizov could help Kravtsov. Might be worth looking into from both sides. But think NYR would want something else besides greenway
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 12:11 p.m.
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    Quoting: csick
    What if Greenway is Sanford 2.0 lol


    Greenway is more like Nick Paul, would help to build a strong bottom-6

    If healthy :

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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 12:22 p.m.
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    Quoting: Xspyrit
    Greenway is more like Nick Paul, would help to build a strong bottom-6

    If healthy :

    Stutzle - Pinto - Batherson
    Tkachuk - Norris - Brown
    Paul - White - Greenway
    Sanford - Tierney - Watson


    I think if we make a trade , we need a top 6 player back. We have too much projected 3rd liners in Jarventie, Sokolov, White, Brown, Greig, Boucher etc
    Nov. 10, 2021 at 12:29 p.m.
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    I think if we make a trade , we need a top 6 player back. We have too much projected 3rd liners in Jarventie, Sokolov, White, Brown, Greig, Boucher etc


    Jarventie is IMO top-6 or bust. Sokolov it will depend but it could be the case as well. I'm very confident saying Greig will be a top-6 forward. White and Boucher, I agree, not more than 3rd liners

    I don't know who Brown is? He's with St. Louis now

    But you're right that in the meantime we'd need a proven top-6 RW but if the guy isn't overpaid, it might take more than Brannstrom to get him.

    Anyway, as I always say, it's defense people should make proposals for
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 12:48 p.m.
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    Jarventie is IMO top-6 or bust. Sokolov it will depend but it could be the case as well. I'm very confident saying Greig will be a top-6 forward. White and Boucher, I agree, not more than 3rd liners

    I don't know who Brown is? He's with St. Louis now

    But you're right that in the meantime we'd need a proven top-6 RW but if the guy isn't overpaid, it might take more than Brannstrom to get him.

    Anyway, as I always say, it's defense people should make proposals for


    I’m talking about Connor Brown cuz he’s probably our longterm 3RW . I hope they trade him tbh because he’s going to be in his 30s soon and wants a long term deal. Easily replaceable by Sokolov or Greig and you can sell high on him
    Nov. 10, 2021 at 12:57 p.m.
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    I’m talking about Connor Brown cuz he’s probably our longterm 3RW . I hope they trade him tbh because he’s going to be in his 30s soon and wants a long term deal. Easily replaceable by Sokolov or Greig and you can sell high on him


    Unfortunately, he's not going to be "easily" replaceable, particularly not by Sokolov. Greig is also LW or C

    Connor Brown is the only quality veteran we have and the only "Selke level" winger we have. You probably have seen the Connor Brown facts I have copied/pasted a lot. The guy produces despite low PP TOI and HEAVY defensive deployment. That is extremely valuable. He makes only 3.6 which makes him even more valuable

    Of course, it will be important to not go full "Matt Murray" on his next contract (too long too much) but something like 5 years x 5.0 AAV would be great. He's only 27 y/o, a really great skater and pretty smart. He should be good until 32 y/o at least. So as long as he avoids injuries, he'll be worth it (knock on wood but if I'm not mistaken, until recently, he had played like 380 games in a row)
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 12:58 p.m.
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    Unfortunately, he's not going to be "easily" replaceable, particularly not by Sokolov. Greig is also LW or C

    Connor Brown is the only quality veteran we have and the only "Selke level" winger we have. You probably have seen the Connor Brown facts I have copied/pasted a lot. The guy produces despite low PP TOI and HEAVY defensive deployment. That is extremely valuable. He makes only 3.6 which makes him even more valuable

    Of course, it will be important to not go full "Matt Murray" on his next contract (too long too much) but something like 5 years x 5.0 AAV would be great. He's only 27 y/o, a really great skater and pretty smart. He should be good until 32 y/o at least. So as long as he avoids injuries, he'll be worth it (knock on wood but if I'm not mistaken, until recently, he had played like 380 games in a row)


    I just can’t see a scenario where Brown is asking for less than 5 x 5
    Nov. 10, 2021 at 1:01 p.m.
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    I just can’t see a scenario where Brown is asking for less than 5 x 5


    Yeah and he absolutely deserves it but I don't have the feeling he'll go "full Tkachuk" on us and get every cent possible. He could have gotten more than 3.6 but agreed to a very reasonable contract.

    Batherson makes 5.0 per, hopefully same for Brown. We need him, we need actual proven players. Can't rebuild forever, Chabot turns 25 y/o in January
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 1:04 p.m.
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    I'm not sure if the Wild need to add for Kravtsov lol. The new Rangers management has already made some very questionable moves to get players that are big. Greenway is big. Drury likes.
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
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    I wonder if maybe Kaprizov could help Kravtsov. Might be worth looking into from both sides. But think NYR would want something else besides greenway


    Its an interesting idea...he could use some mentorship.
    I think I recall reading that he was close with Buchnevich in that way.
    Perhaps a similar path may exist with Blues and Buch, Tarasenko.
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 1:12 p.m.
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    I keep getting this error when trying to add players.

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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 1:14 p.m.
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    I keep getting this error when trying to add players.

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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 1:33 p.m.
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    beterChiarelli


    https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/527761

    Banks is looking into it!
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 1:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/527761

    Banks is looking into it!


    Thanks smile
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 1:43 p.m.
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    maybe a 3 way trade? Greenway to NY, Kravtsov to Ottawa, brannstrom to MIN? would probably need to sort out some details but could be the framework of a neat deal
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 2:10 p.m.
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    Yes from Ottawa

    Sens management/coaching are very stubborn and Brannstrom is not someone they have in their plans. Might as well use hm to get a player they will use. I like Greenway and think he would be needed to make the bottom-6 better


    Where you putting him in the line up, cause he is left shot LW, so not ahead of Brady, Stu, or Formenton, so you trading Branstrom for a 4th liner?
    I would think not.
    Nov. 10, 2021 at 2:19 p.m.
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    maybe a 3 way trade? Greenway to NY, Kravtsov to Ottawa, brannstrom to MIN? would probably need to sort out some details but could be the framework of a neat deal


    Honestly, why not? I think the important thing for MIN is getting maximum value in any deal. Brannstrom and Kravtsov are both tenuous fits for MIN but they will definitely help with what will likely be a busy summer or earlier to get some moves over the finish line.
    Nov. 10, 2021 at 2:28 p.m.
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    Where you putting him in the line up, cause he is left shot LW, so not ahead of Brady, Stu, or Formenton, so you trading Branstrom for a 4th liner?
    I would think not.


    Greenway can play either wing. It doesn't matter where you play him.

    Ideally, you would play him opposite Formenton.
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 2:34 p.m.
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    Where you putting him in the line up, cause he is left shot LW, so not ahead of Brady, Stu, or Formenton, so you trading Branstrom for a 4th liner?
    I would think not.


    I'll leave our colleague answer this :

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    Greenway can play either wing. It doesn't matter where you play him.

    Ideally, you would play him opposite Formenton.


    Or Nick Paul. These 2 together would be very hard to play against
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    Nov. 10, 2021 at 4:23 p.m.
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    I'll leave our colleague answer this :



    Or Nick Paul. These 2 together would be very hard to play against


    OK, I had seen online that it didn't look like he had much playing time on RW in NHL. He could be a good linemate for Formenton then with Paul in the middle as a Third line. This would also help add some size and physicality so the Sens management would be more willing and quicker to get rid of the likes of Watson, Sabourin, Sanford.

    I would still say that he is an underpay 1 v1 for Branstrom, but I am open to the idea of Sens wanting to add him.
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