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Do you guys actually think Pavelski deserves to be in the HHOF? Like he has 1 2nd team all star, no individual hardware, no cups, 1 silver medal from 2 olympics, 406g 871pts in 1116gp, 1 40 goal year, best season of 41-38-79 in 82gp, zero point per game seasons. Compared to:
Alfredsson: best player in Sens franchise history, calder+all rookie team, clancy, messier, 1 2nd team all star, 1 top 5 hart finish, 444g 1157pts in 1246gp, no cups, 1 gold and 1 silver from 5 olympics, 2 40 goal years, 1 100 point season, 9 point per game seasons, best season of 43-60-103 in 77gp.
Mogilny: byng, 2 2nd team all stars, 473g 1032pts in 990gp, 2 40 goal years, 1 100 point season, best season of 76-51-127 in 77gp, 8 point per game seasons, 1 gold from 1 olympics. Only triple gold club member not in the hhof (which is WC+olympics+cup, he also has wjc gold).
Barrasso: calder+all rookie team, 1 1st and 2 2nd team all stars, 1 vezina (and 3 runner ups), 1 jennings, 2 cups, 11 20+ win seasons, best season of 43 wins in 63 games, 1 silver from 1 olympics (although i think he was the backup), 369 career wins.
Theo Fleury: 1 2nd team all star, 1 cup, 2 top 5 hart finishes, only player with over a point per game in both the regular season (1000+ gp) and playoffs (75+ gp) not in the hhof, 4 40 goal seasons, 2 100 point seasons, 455g 1088pts in 1084gp, best season of 51-53-104 in 79gp, 7 point per game seasons.
Keith Tkachuk: basically pavelski’s case for the hall but better in every way in that he never won a cup but had 5 point per game seasons, 538g 1065pts in 1201gp, best season of 50-48-98 in 76gp, 3 40 goal seasons, 2 2nd team all stars, one of only 3 guys to ever hit 500g and 2000pim.
I’m sure there are some others who have pretty solid cases (gonchar, pierre turgeon, jeremy roenick, vanbiesbrouck, cujo pop up on lists every now and then) and I just don’t think pavelski really stands out with no hardware, not super impressive production or longevity (assuming he retires at like, 41 with like 480g and 1000pts in 1400gp, which might be generous). Like that puts him below Pat Verbeek in terms of hall of fame case imo.