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2021-22 NHL Discussion Thread #12

Jan. 27 at 10:57 a.m.
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So I've been told by a Nucks fan that VAN wouldn't trade Miller to Wild in exchange to Fiala+Boldy+1st.

Now I think this particular Nucks fan is more or less insane but I'd like to hear your opinions on this one.


What.

That’s insane, these evaluations of Miller get crazier by the day.
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Jan. 27 at 10:57 a.m.
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Imagine Dallas beats them again lol.

Tbh it could be a real possibility, the Stars are a completely different team in the playoffs, and beat them in 2020 with about the same roster both ways.


HEY I thought we were supposed to retool.

Don't give me any hope here.
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Jan. 27 at 10:58 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
So I've been told by a Nucks fan that VAN wouldn't trade Miller to Wild in exchange to Fiala+Boldy+1st.

Now I think this particular Nucks fan is more or less insane but I'd like to hear your opinions on this one.


His argument is "he's in trade rumours" but it has literally nothing to do with Fiala's value/play, it's that an extension is unlikely from a financial Wild standpoint.
Jan. 27 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
What.

That’s insane, these evaluations of Miller get crazier by the day.


Yeah see my initial trade idea was Miller+Boeser for Fiala+Boldy+Rask+1st. I dunno if it's fair but I kinda like it.
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Jan. 27 at 11:00 a.m.
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His argument is "he's in trade rumours" but it has literally nothing to do with Fiala's value/play, it's that an extension is unlikely from a financial Wild standpoint.


Indeed
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Jan. 27 at 11:02 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
HEY I thought we were supposed to retool.

Don't give me any hope here.


Tbh I’m only a fan of a playoff run if Bones leaves.
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Jan. 27 at 11:02 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Yeah see my initial trade idea was Miller+Boeser for Fiala+Boldy+Rask+1st. I dunno if it's fair but I kinda like it.


There I might add a bit more as Minny, since Rask doesn’t seem like a lot of value.

Idk Minny prospects, but I’d do Fiala+Boldy+Rask+1st+Mid Prospect or conditional 1st for Miller and Boeser
Jan. 27 at 11:04 a.m.
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Quoting: NoVaSpartan
There I might add a bit more as Minny, since Rask doesn’t seem like a lot of value.

Idk Minny prospects, but I’d do Fiala+Boldy+Rask+1st+Mid Prospect or conditional 1st for Miller and Boeser


Well I got told by Wild fans that including Boldy is a non-starter, particularly because of their cap situation which I understand completely.
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Jan. 27 at 11:09 a.m.
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@yikes

Was it you that knew of a site where it would show line-mates per season of a certain player?

If anyone knows of this site please tell me I’m trying to figure something out.
Jan. 27 at 11:27 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
So I've been told by a Nucks fan that VAN wouldn't trade Miller to Wild in exchange to Fiala+Boldy+1st.

Now I think this particular Nucks fan is more or less insane but I'd like to hear your opinions on this one.

That’s stupid. 1st+Boldy for Miller half-retained would probably still be an overpay, expecting Fiala as well is just dumb.

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yikes

Was it you that knew of a site where it would show line-mates per season of a certain player?

If anyone knows of this site please tell me I’m trying to figure something out.

If you go to natural stat trick, you can see the exact ice time they play with each teammate. Left wing lock has common full line combos (I think you can sort by time frame, so if you want to know full season or the last week you can choose that).
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Jan. 27 at 11:30 a.m.
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5000 seats lmao


lmao, poverty franchise, 5000 seats, Bettman has to face Arizona is a dry market if the best arena they can get is 5000 seats

Quoting: justaBoss
So I've been told by a Nucks fan that VAN wouldn't trade Miller to Wild in exchange to Fiala+Boldy+1st.

Now I think this particular Nucks fan is more or less insane but I'd like to hear your opinions on this one.


I don't have full context but that seems like a no brainer to accept
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Jan. 27 at 11:38 a.m.
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5000 seats lmao


Imagine they still struggle to sell out games

They gotta relocate to Quebec city
Jan. 27 at 11:46 a.m.
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Imagine they still struggle to sell out games

They gotta relocate to Houston


There fixed it.
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Jan. 27 at 11:49 a.m.
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Kane's arrival in Edmonton is kinda fitting with Kane's WWE entrance, him walking into a fire locker room.

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Jan. 27 at 12:09 p.m.
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Jan. 27 at 12:09 p.m.
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yikes

Was it you that knew of a site where it would show line-mates per season of a certain player?

If anyone knows of this site please tell me I’m trying to figure something out.


Evolving Hockey


Or

Money Puck
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Jan. 27 at 12:42 p.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
yikes

Was it you that knew of a site where it would show line-mates per season of a certain player?

If anyone knows of this site please tell me I’m trying to figure something out.


I like using this site:

https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/blake-comeau
Jan. 27 at 12:45 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
So I've been told by a Nucks fan that VAN wouldn't trade Miller to Wild in exchange to Fiala+Boldy+1st.

Now I think this particular Nucks fan is more or less insane but I'd like to hear your opinions on this one.


I would trade Miller for Boldy straight up
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Jan. 27 at 12:46 p.m.
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yikes

Was it you that knew of a site where it would show line-mates per season of a certain player?

If anyone knows of this site please tell me I’m trying to figure something out.


Natstatrick
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Jan. 27 at 12:46 p.m.
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I like using this site:

https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/blake-comeau


Yeah that was what I was looking for, thanks!

Also why out of every player possible you used Blake Comeau?
Jan. 27 at 12:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
I would trade Miller for Boldy straight up


Canucks absolutely do not swap Miller for Boldy 1 for 1. Fiala Boldy and Fiala is a bit much though. It has been reported that Miller would return MORE than a first round pick and a TOP prospect
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Jan. 27 at 12:47 p.m.
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Man I didn’t realize Money Puck wasn’t behind a paywall, I’ve been looking for a free site like that for a while lol. Guess I’ll have to add it to the rotation (I regularly use natural stat trick, hockey reference, hockeydb, elite prospects, and quanthockey, generally in that order lol, but if a fancy stat isn’t on either of the first two I’ve mostly been resorting to seeing them in articles).

Fun fact: all 3 of Calgary’s defense pairs have at least a 56.7% xG%. All of Calgary’s top 3 lines have at least a 63.2% xG%.
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There fixed it.

Nah they’re not gonna relocate to Houston. Bettman’s gonna want a $1B expansion fee from Houston. If they have to relocate, it’ll be to Quebec, it sounds like they’re the emergency backup plan (ready now with an NHL rink and fans that will fill it up, Houston probably needs some marketing and excitement to build to get the most out of that city).
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Jan. 27 at 12:48 p.m.
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Natstatrick


I find NaturalStatTrick so hard to navigate compared to EvolvingHockey and MoneyPuck, but maybe it's just me
Jan. 27 at 12:49 p.m.
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Canucks absolutely do not swap Miller for Boldy 1 for 1. Fiala Boldy and Fiala is a bit much though. It has been reported that Miller would return MORE than a first round pick and a TOP prospect

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Jan. 27 at 12:50 p.m.
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I find NaturalStatTrick so hard to navigate compared to EvolvingHockey and MoneyPuck, but maybe it's just me


it definitely is but once you figure it out I feel like its more informative, money puck is definitely the easiest to navigate but there's so many metrics I do not care about lol. Nat stat trick line tool is my favorite.
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