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Winger Revamp

Created by: DriveFor25
Initial Creation Date: May 26, 2022
Published: May 26, 2022
Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens
Team Explanation
Once Zadina comes into his own, Hoffman would be dealt to a contender.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Zadina, Filip2$1,500,000
Puljujärvi, Jesse6$4,100,000
Romanov, Alexander3$2,750,000
Schueneman, Corey3$1,500,000
Pitlick, Rem3$1,500,000
Primeau, Cayden1$750,000
Schnarr, Nathan1$750,000
Teasdale, Joël1$750,000
Pezzetta, Michael1$750,000
Montembeault, Samuel1$750,000
Clague, Kale1$750,000
Brook, Josh1$750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Niku, Sami1$750,000
Wideman, Chris1$800,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane3$925,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Zadina, Filip [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Not too sure on the exact value of this deal. I do know that both are worth anywhere from a 2nd to a late first, so I imagine a deal centered around these two players would make sense. One of the sides probably has to add a bit though, idk who though.
DET
  1. Petry, Jeff
2.
MTL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
EDM
  1. Drouin, Jonathan ($2,750,000 retained)
  2. Allen, Jake
  3. 2022 3rd round pick (MTL)
3.
MTL
  1. 2023 4th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Weber, Shea
4.
MTL
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Hoffman, Mike ($2,250,000 retained)
  2. 2022 4th round pick (TBL)
Additional Details:
Any Contender
5.
MTL
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Armia, Joel
Additional Details:
Any team
Buyouts
  • Karl Alzner: $833,333
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Jonathan Drouin: $2,750,000 (50%)
  • Mike Hoffman: $2,250,000 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$72,858,332$1,132,500$1,990,000$10,641,668
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Zadina, Filip
$1,500,000
RW, LW
RFA
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Suzuki, Nick
$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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Gallagher, Brendan
$6,500,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
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Caufield, Cole
$880,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Wright, Shane
$925,000
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$4,100,000
RW
RFA
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Pitlick, Rem
$1,500,000
LW, C
RFA
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Dvorak, Christian
$4,450,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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Anderson, Josh
$5,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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Poehling, Ryan
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Evans, Jake
$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
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Ylönen, Jesse
$880,833
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Edmundson, Joel
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Savard, David
$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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Romanov, Alexander
$2,750,000
LD/RD
RFA
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Schueneman, Corey
$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA
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Montembeault, Samuel
$750,000
G
RFA
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Guhle, Kaiden
$863,333
LD
RFA - 3
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Barron, Justin
$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
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Harris, Jordan
$842,500
LD
RFA - 1
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Wideman, Chris
$800,000
RD
UFA - 2

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May 26 at 2:02 p.m.
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Yeah Detroit doesn't even consider that at all. No need for Petry in Detroit and they are not giving up a 22 year old with potential for a guy that would be sitting in the press box every night.

Edmonton doesn't even consider either.

Not one of these trades makes sense for any of the other teams and the ones you said wherever the value is too high.
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May 26 at 2:03 p.m.
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Yeah Detroit doesn't even consider that at all. No need for Petry in Detroit and they are not giving up a 22 year old with potential for a guy that would be sitting in the press box every night.


You'd sit your 2nd best D in the pressbox every night?
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May 26 at 2:05 p.m.
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DAL declines that. We won't take Hoffman for free, much less pay for him. Even retained. Same goes to Armia. We have better use for our cap.
May 26 at 2:06 p.m.
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Yeah Detroit doesn't even consider that at all. No need for Petry in Detroit and they are not giving up a 22 year old with potential for a guy that would be sitting in the press box every night.

Edmonton doesn't even consider either.

Not one of these trades makes sense for any of the other teams and the ones you said wherever the value is too high.


Lmao Petry is overpaid for sure but he'd definitely be in your lineup and a top3 D in your team. This is just complete bs.
May 26 at 2:07 p.m.
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Edmonton has Smith signed for next season and Skinner waiver eligible. If Smith retires or ends up on LTIR, I could see Edmonton moving Pulju/Yamamoto for a goalie, but not for one year of Jake Allen.
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May 26 at 2:09 p.m.
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DAL declines that. We won't take Hoffman for free, much less pay for him. Even retained. Same goes to Armia. We have better use for our cap.


I just chose Dallas as a random team, I wrote in the description "Any Contender" for a reason
May 26 at 2:12 p.m.
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3 years on petry is just too long. If it was 1 even 2 I'd think sbout it but 3 is going to start getting in the way of the cap.
May 26 at 2:14 p.m.
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I just chose Dallas as a random team, I wrote in the description "Any Contender" for a reason


I think what I said applies to any and all contenders too.
May 26 at 2:14 p.m.
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Detroit says No F'n Way, one of the worst trade offers I have seen... You want this trade to happen your tossing in next years 1st as well. Petry has negative value where as Zadina is still in a boom/bust opportunity with an amazing team friendly contract coming up. Please explain to me HOW each team would actually benefit from this trade? The only thing you got right was his contract will likely be around $1.5M for 2 years.

Literally there is NO risk in keeping Zadina, him sucking and just letting him walk later compared to getting a contract from Montreal for a player who is not even remotely close to the age or style of the core making him useless to detroit... My fix for your trade offer is keeping Zadina and giving Staal another contract for 1 year at $2M.
May 26 at 2:16 p.m.
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You'd sit your 2nd best D in the pressbox every night?


Ill help explain.. your offer is the same as: Detroit offering you Danny Dekeyser with 2 years at $6.2M for Rem Pitlick... WHAT WOULD DEKEYSER DO FOR MONTREAL? the same as Petry would do in Detroit.
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May 26 at 2:17 p.m.
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May 26 at 2:19 p.m.
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Ill help explain.. your offer is the same as: Detroit offering you Danny Dekeyser with 2 years at $6.2M for Rem Pitlick... WHAT WOULD DEKEYSER DO FOR MONTREAL? the same as Petry would do in Detroit.


Even though I feel like there's nothing remotely comparable between what you're proposing and what is proposed above, my comment wasn't on the trade itself but on Petry being in the pressbox. He'd be Detroit's 2nd best D by a quite a fair margin.
May 26 at 2:21 p.m.
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You'd sit your 2nd best D in the pressbox every night?


No. Hronek will play each game.
May 26 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Even though I feel like there's nothing remotely comparable between what you're proposing and what is proposed above, my comment wasn't on the trade itself but on Petry being in the pressbox. He'd be Detroit's 2nd best D by a quite a fair margin.


Not even close. Hronek is our second best D.
May 26 at 2:22 p.m.
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Not even close. Hronek is our second best D.


Lol Hronek is significantly worse than Petry.
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May 26 at 2:31 p.m.
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Quoting: SevenLeg
Lol Hronek is significantly worse than Petry.


You're totally delusional, Look at Petry's first 4 years in Edmonton compared to Hroneks first 4 years in Detroit. And Hronek is far superior it took Petry like 9 years to hit 40 points and Hronek in his 4th season missed 40 by 2. I'll take Hronek over Petry any day of the year.
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May 26 at 2:34 p.m.
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You're totally delusional, Look at Petry's first 4 years in Edmonton compared to Hroneks first 4 years in Detroit. And Hronek is far superior it took Petry like 10 years to hit 40 points and Hronek in his 4th season missed 40 by 2. I'll take Hronek over Petry any day of the year.


That's not relevant to the conversation at all and it's comical that you, of all people, are calling others delusional. The fact that Petry peaked later in his career than Hronek doesn't make him worse right now.
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May 26 at 2:37 p.m.
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That's not relevant to the conversation at all and it's comical that you, of all people, are calling others delusional. The fact that Petry peaked later in his career than Hronek doesn't make him worse right now.


No, But it means that Hronek was better at the beginning of his career on the worst scoring team in the league. And will only get better as the team improves. Still better than Petry.
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May 26 at 2:38 p.m.
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Lmao Petry is overpaid for sure but he'd definitely be in your lineup and a top3 D in your team. This is just complete bs.


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You'd sit your 2nd best D in the pressbox every night?


Let's see, for our right side we have Seider, Hronek and Lindstrom who are all better and much younger than Petry. Even if you feel Petry is slightly better than one or two of those guys, why the hell would we play him? How would the team benefit in the long run? Petry to Detroit trades our stupid unless they have significant compensation coming back their way to take on that contract.

Dallas only has one right handed dman signed for next year send him the for like Peterson or something.
May 26 at 2:40 p.m.
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Let's see, for our right side we have Seider, Hronek and Lindstrom who are all better and much younger than Petry. Even if you feel Petry is slightly better than one or two of those guys, why the hell would we play him? How would the team benefit in the long run? Petry to Detroit trades our stupid unless they have significant compensation coming back their way to take on that contract.

Dallas only has one right handed dman signed for next year send him the for like Peterson or something.


Only Seider is better than him of those three. Hronek is about equal, although granted he has more value due to his age and contract.

I'd take Petry if we had more cap space and could find a fair deal. But alas, we do not.
May 26 at 2:42 p.m.
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Only Seider is better than him of those three. Hronek is about equal, although granted he has more value due to his age and contract.

I'd take Petry if we had more cap space and could find a fair deal. But alas, we do not.


Lindstrom is a different type of dman, he's way better defensively than Petry. Granted he will never put up alot of points but he's good in his own zone and is good at break out passes.

Also Dallas has 40M in cap space next year, that's alot.
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May 26 at 2:42 p.m.
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No, But it means that Hronek was better at the beginning of his career on the worst scoring team in the league. And will only get better as the team improves. Still better than Petry.


Edmonton was also not a powerhouse at the beginning of Petry's career. The latter was also more of a two-way defenseman while Hronek has awful defensive metrics. And again I'm talikng about right now, Petry would be Detroit's 2nd best defenseman not "maybe Hronek will grow better". So no, Petry "wouldn't be in the pressbox each game" and if he is, it means Detroit would be icing significantly worse defensemen and this is what I was arguing.






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May 26 at 2:44 p.m.
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Lindstrom is a different type of dman, he's way better defensively than Petry. Granted he will never put up alot of points but he's good in his own zone and is good at break out passes.


Petry is pretty decent in both ends of the ice.
May 26 at 2:46 p.m.
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Let's see, for our right side we have Seider, Hronek and Lindstrom who are all better and much younger than Petry. Even if you feel Petry is slightly better than one or two of those guys, why the hell would we play him? How would the team benefit in the long run? Petry to Detroit trades our stupid unless they have significant compensation coming back their way to take on that contract.

Dallas only has one right handed dman signed for next year send him the for like Peterson or something.


Neither Hronek or Lindstrom are better defensemen than Petry, this is insanity. If Detroit rather ice their younger defensemen in hopes of them becoming better it's understandable, but they're not better at the moment than Jeff Petry. You could just say Petry doesn't fit Detroit's timeline or Detroit would rather give that icetime to their young Ds, but Petry being in the pressbox in Detroit is a plain wrong take.
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May 26 at 2:49 p.m.
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Also Dallas has 40M in cap space next year, that's alot.


Short term yes, long-term no. There's a plenty of contracts to re-sign in the next 2 years with Benn's albatross deal expiring in three. We need to be pretty mindful in where we invest the money.
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