Another Anderson for 7th OA

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Created by: LIRIK

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 30, 2022

Published: Jun. 30, 2022

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

OTT get a power forward to play with Stutzle, a better goalie and get rid of 11M cap hit.

MTL get the 7OA, buyout White and carry Murray for the next 2 years.

Trades

MTL

Murray, Matt
White, Colin
2022 1st round pick (OTT)

Additional Details:

MTL buyout White's contract.

OTT

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333
Colin White: $875,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2022
2023
2024

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
17	$82,500,000	$67,807,916	$1,132,500	$1,357,500	$14,692,084

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C UFA - 3	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 3	Dadonov, Evgeni $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
	Poehling, Ryan $750,000$750,000 C, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Petry, Jeff $2,343,750$2,343,750 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
Harris, Jordan $842,500$842,500 ($507,500$508K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 2
	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1

Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:29 p.m.

Neptune12

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Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:30 p.m.

SMH

Mr.

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Mmm...

Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:34 p.m.

Devil

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@csick

Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:34 p.m.

TMLBRIAN

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Interesting take. 7th overall is worth more than Anderson for sure. But you put 2 BIG cap dumps coming back to Montreal as well.

I think both teams consider this.

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Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:34 p.m.

sensonfire

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That's way way way worse than my idea about trading #7 to Montreal.

Ottawa declines.

Try again.

Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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This is horrendous for ottawa

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Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:36 p.m.

sensonfire

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

Interesting take. 7th overall is worth more than Anderson for sure. But you put 2 BIG cap dumps coming back to Montreal as well.

I think both teams consider this.

No, we don't.

What are you even talking about??

Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:36 p.m.

Alfie11

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

Interesting take. 7th overall is worth more than Anderson for sure. But you put 2 BIG cap dumps coming back to Montreal as well.

I think both teams consider this.

Sens wouldn’t do this if they also took Zaitsev lol. They’re not in cap trouble.

Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:39 p.m.

Claesson4Norris

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Yeah.... no.

1 Ottawa doesn't need to dump Murray this badly.
2 the whole idea with getting rid of Murray would be to clear up the clogged goalie pipeline, so taking Allen back (who wasn't any better than Murray this year) is pointless
3 Josh Anderson is such a mid player. Tremendous physical skillset that he doesn't have the IQ to capitalize on. Someone will do something stupid to get him but it sure as hell shouldn't be Ottawa.
4 any trade involving the 7th overall pick needs to do exactly one thing, and that's bring back a player worth trading a 7th overall pick for. None of this does that. Not even remotely close.

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Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:39 p.m.

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JaredOfLondon

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This would be so bad for ottawa, hilarious, but so so so bad

Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:42 p.m.

#11

Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

Interesting take. 7th overall is worth more than Anderson for sure. But you put 2 BIG cap dumps coming back to Montreal as well.

I think both teams consider this.

(Trading White as a negative asset is totally pointless given his painless buyout. Essentially trading him here saves Ottawa 875K against the cap, hardly a BIG capdump imo.) Also Josh Anderson's contract is also really bad

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Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:46 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Murray's contract is buyout proof. Just awful. No

Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:50 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Anderson's contract isnt negative value not close to comparable to Murray.

Jun. 30, 2022 at 4:58 p.m.

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TheBoyDuddus

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This goes nowhere close to even being considered by Ottawa. Not using the 7th overall pick to facilitate a buyout for an overpaid underperforming winger and a backup goaltender, especially when Ottawa would still have 2 under contract in this scenario.

Hard pass.

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Jun. 30, 2022 at 5:10 p.m.

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Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great

Anderson's contract isnt negative value not close to comparable to Murray.

5.5mil with term for an injury prone winger whose career high is 27 goals, 47 points, and he's never cracked 20 goals or 40pts a 2nd time in his career. That's definitely not a good contract.

Josh Anderson has one of the best physical toolkits in hockey, and if he had a hockey IQ in the triple digits he'd be a nearly unstoppable winger. But he’s 28, we know what he is and he's just not that because he isn't capable of that. Not sure why he's the only 28 year old people still talk "potential" with.

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Jun. 30, 2022 at 6:27 p.m.

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emoprettyboy

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Quoting: TMLBRIAN

Interesting take. 7th overall is worth more than Anderson for sure. But you put 2 BIG cap dumps coming back to Montreal as well.

I think both teams consider this.

nah lol. Anderson isn’t bad but he’s really just a physical middle 6er, not the right guy for Stützle. plus he’s got his own really hefty contract. White isn’t a “BIG cap dump” because his buyout this offseason is like $800k. getting rid of Murray isn’t that high of a priority, especially when part of the whole point is that the Sens have a logjam in the crease this season. So at that point, White and Allen would be a wash, and you’d get 7th overall and getting rid of Murray for Josh Anderson, which is just, absurdly not worth it for the Sens at all. Habs don’t have anybody available who’s worth 7th

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