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That is dreadful for Edmonton

Leafs jump on that in a heartbeat.

San Jose doesn’t have cap space why would an insider Believe this is a remote possibility?

well if you some how actually have that job ( which i doubt you do) you just got fired.

LOL, Bouchard is worth more than the Leafs package on his own.

And the Barrie trade is horrific for Edmonton. Hakanpaa is big but that's about it.

You're fired.

Pretty interesting deal. Not sure Oilers come out ahead here.

Sandin is promising but sample size is tiny and Bouchard is more of a known commodity.

And why the rush to trade Puljujarvi?? Its like oilers can't wait to get rid of him. Is he really that bad?? Imo Replacing him with Kerfoot seems like a lateral move at best.

Holl is decent enough on the PK but not sure trading for him as part of a larger package like this is the way to go.

Anyway, congrats on the new job! Sounds like an amazing opportunity. All the best!

Leafs can't afford that trade, so they definitely don't.

Nvm, Arz is doing the retention.

Arizona is already at the cap floor so they don't need to increase their cap at all. They also have 10 picks already in the first 4 rounds of the 2024 draft. So please explain why it is such a great deal for Arizona to be paying out any money at all, let alone 375 K, for the honor of watching a player skate for another team.

That Toronto trade is terrible for Edmonton, if analytics tell you that's a win for the Oilers those analytics need to be tossed in the trash.

Idk why Edmonton is adding in the Dallas trade, not sure if that's a move that'd interest Nill as the Barrie replacing Klingberg idea has been beat to death on here to little agreement, pretty sure Stars fans never warmed up to the idea, still don't see why Edmonton should be adding, definitely not a 2nd if they did.

Foegele isn't a bad player and his cap hit is okay for the player he is but the league is pretty much capped out, might cost more to move him.

Perreault hasn't played center for like six years or more, he's a winger.

That's a weird 3rd line, bottom six in general doesn't look very good and the defense got worse, this Oilers team is worse imo.

Accidentally, quoted instead of editing.

LMFAO honestly solid troll

The trade seems decent for both sides, except that the Oilers will only be able to retain Sandin and they are giving up Bouchard (who the Leafs might have problems with keeping)+JP. The picks for the rentals is a wash at worst.

Ultimately, in the long run, the Leafs are better trading for Hakanpaa, and retaining Sandin if possible. Same is true for the Oilers with Bouchard, since they have Broberg.

The deal is terrible for Arz since they are already over the cap floor. They shouldn't waste 1/3 retentions for a 4th.

A trade like JP for Holl+a pick might be better suited. While trading Barrie for a LD elsewhere, maybe Sanheim out in Phi as a rental. Or JP+ for Marcus Pettersen, dump Barrie and Foegele elsewhere.

Why? Leafs don't need an upgrade at 3 RD. Bouchard would be boxed there for 2 years. As far as value goes it look pretty fair to me.

I think you’re underrating Bouchard here.

Think you're underrating all 3 leafs players. I would keep Sandin over Bouchard. Leafs have Brodie Lilly Holl with niemela in the wings. Not much in high end prospects on an aging left side.

I'm pretty happy with our bottom six as is. Lindblom, Sturm, Kunin, Bonino, Bordeleau, Lorentz, Nieto and Reedy are all cheaper and better than Warren Foegele. He's your problem.

At the end of the day you get better on defense by adding to a weakness (right side) and subtracting from a strength (left side) in my opinion. You dump cap with Kerfoot and Holl who are your most expendable guys. You get a decent younger winger with Puljujarvi and a pick. The team is probably a little worse but you do that at the benefit of getting cap space.

If Bouchard hits his PB we save 900k 1.6m if he doesn't and have 2 rfa's to deal with next season. Which normally isn't a bad thing but I don't think either will be an easy negotiation.

I just don't see a deal happening between two teams looking to move money out. Certainly not these kayers but it's well thought out. Other than leafs not having a proper slot for Bouchard.

To be honest I would probably rather remove holl and replace Bouchard with broberg. I'm not sure I like the trade but it would make more sense. To me what makes the most sense is moving Muzzin out but fldubas won't even explore that.

After this year you’ll have 1 right now nhl ready right side defenseman under contract so Bouchard is very beneficial for the future. And he helps you a lot now too because there is still room on that right especially with Holl out.

Also you could definitely trade Puljujarvi for another forward at the deadline.

We tried. I started this month but I was told the offer at the draft was picks#32, Foegle and Puljujarvi for #38 and Muzzin. Dubas said he wasn't moving Muzzin.

Two, brodie and Lilly. Top 4 is covered on the right. Leafs have niemela who may or may not be ready for top 4 in 2 years. We also have Duszak who would be 3rd pair capable at least. After we move Sandin we have Rielly and two aging and one of them often broken lhd. With nothing great in the pipe.

It's the truth. He's in love with Muzzin.

Personally I would have done Muzzin for foegele and klefbom. But I still don't think oilers could make the money work.

I meant to say one defenseman under contract. There is a chance Brodie doesn’t return. To replenish your left side, you could always move Brodie back to the left if he resigns. Plus adding Bouchard can upgrade your top 4, you can’t just say it’s set and never change it. Besides, that top 2 on the right side of Brodie and Liljegren is ok at best. Bouchard would improve that and bump Liljegren down for now. If he can push into the top 4 and/or one of those prospects comes up you slide Brodie to the left side. That left side is all of a sudden pretty good with Rielly, Brodie, then someone else. That someone else doesn’t need to be Sandin or someone really good, but that spot will be filled in once Muzzin and Giordano leave (in this scenario).

But see, you replace Sandin on you’re third or second pair for Bouchard on your first or second pair. Getting a right dman gives you more flexibility. Plus you have a lot more uncertainty on your right side now then your left side in terms of who can play there.

Brodie is signed for two more years. There is really no uncertainty on the right side, we are set. On the left we have Muzzin who can't stay healthy. Gio is 38. Left hand Dman are a lot easier to find, I get that. But putting either Lilly or Bouchard on the bottom pair isn't really good for their development. Having a guy like Holl who you don't mind putting in the bottom pair and can jump up to top 4 when needed works well. Leafs pk was very good last season I'm not a big fan of moving out two good pkers in one deal either.

Like I said from the start, it's certainly not a bad trade at all. I definitely wouldn't be upset if it happened.