I don’t see these two as in the same class at all. Seider is already one of the best in the game. I won’t compare people to Lidstrom too often but he may just be in that class
I don’t see these two as in the same class at all. Seider is already one of the best in the game. I won’t compare people to Lidstrom too often but he may just be in that class
He reminds me of a non-dickhead version of Pronger.
i think you mean at best they are equal. at worst seider continues to grow the gap.
Dobson has been in the league for three seasons and Seider for one. Seider is certainly ahead of where Dobson was even though they're only a year apart age-wise. Seider can bring same production while playing a much more sound defensive game and a MUCH more physical game.
You guys wouldn't make it very far as NHL scouts if that's your attitude
I mean, that's just a bad take. Saying someone wouldn't make it far as an NHL scout because they think a phenomenal player is phenomenal? I don't know what you're on about, if you ask me they have the right idea.
I mean, that's just a bad take. Saying someone wouldn't make it far as an NHL scout because they think a phenomenal player is phenomenal? I don't know what you're on about, if you ask me they have the right idea.
Sounds to me like somebody is a little too star struck. Not saying there isn't room to be awed and wowed as a scout, but can't let it completely dominate one's ability to assess
Oh no! You mean my life long aspirations have been destroyed?!?!? You mean this site wasn't real practice for a job as an NHL scout?!?! NOOOOOOOOOO!
Not destroyed, but I'd say some reassessing of how you'd do your job may be in order, especially if you're let go by one team and want to sell yourself to another organization for a gig
Dobson has been in the league for three seasons and Seider for one. Seider is certainly ahead of where Dobson was even though they're only a year apart age-wise. Seider can bring same production while playing a much more sound defensive game and a MUCH more physical game.
That Seider chart isnt very up to date to be fair, its from November
If were comparing only their 21-22 season with percentiles among D with 200+ mins
Seider: WAR: 84%, EV Offense: 88%, EV Defense: 73%, Shooting: 29%, Penalties: 85%, PP: 84%, PK: 15%
Dobson: WAR: 92%, EV Offense: 66%, EV Defense: 42%, Shooting: 92%, Penalties: 98%, PP: 66%, PK: 79%
I'll stand by it. Seider is more well-rounded. While I don't think physical play is must, being able to play how he does while playing a physically punishing game puts him in another class.
Not destroyed, but I'd say some reassessing of how you'd do your job may be in order, especially if you're let go by one team and want to sell yourself to another organization for a gig
I don't take this as seriously as you do. I don't feel I necessarily own anyone here the time and research to prove my points. If it's readily available, sure I'll post it, but I do have a life outside this board lol