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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #12 - On The Links

Aug. 26, 2022 at 5:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Db1899
lol you know Mayfield has like 3-4 x the value of schenn


But how many Stanley Cups wink
Aug. 26, 2022 at 5:19 p.m.
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But how many Stanley Cups wink


Two Mickey Mouse Stanley cups
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 5:27 p.m.
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Two Mickey Mouse Stanley cups


"I can't hear you with my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears"
-Luke Schenn
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 5:29 p.m.
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"I can't hear you with my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears
-Patrick Roy"
-Luke Schenn


Fixed it.
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 5:57 p.m.
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Friedman thinks Rodrigues is going to Cgy since Kessel was signed by VGK. Probs will see a similar deal to what Dube signed for if this happens
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 6:31 p.m.
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Friedman thinks Rodrigues is going to Cgy since Kessel was signed by VGK. Probs will see a similar deal to what Dube signed for if this happens


did someone not tell macfarland he's in charge yet.
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 6:44 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
did someone not tell macfarland he's in charge yet.


Could be a case of he wants to bring in these guys but Sakic is going no.
Aug. 26, 2022 at 7:41 p.m.
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 8:03 p.m.
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Could be a case of he wants to bring in these guys but Sakic is going no.


not sure what the avs plan is.

1. swing for the fences - kane/miller.
2. hoping for a specific player on wavier or on the cheap from a cap strapped team.
3. be the big guy in the room at deadline with double the cap space of other contenders.
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 8:11 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
not sure what the avs plan is.

1. swing for the fences - kane/miller.
2. hoping for a specific player on wavier or on the cheap from a cap strapped team.
3. be the big guy in the room at deadline with double the cap space of other contenders.


Quoting: aadoyle
Could be a case of he wants to bring in these guys but Sakic is going no.


I think they’re worried about what to do with the future of the franchise. Surely next year is a back to back attempt (hell of 2023 if we got Tampa-Tampa-Avs-Avs). But after and the finances are hairy.
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 8:16 p.m.
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I think they’re worried about what to do with the future of the franchise. Surely next year is a back to back attempt (hell of 2023 if we got Tampa-Tampa-Avs-Avs). But after and the finances are hairy.


stastny and kessel only signed for 1 year. avs wouldnt have had to commit term.
Aug. 26, 2022 at 8:33 p.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
not sure what the avs plan is.

1. swing for the fences - kane/miller.
2. hoping for a specific player on wavier or on the cheap from a cap strapped team.
3. be the big guy in the room at deadline with double the cap space of other contenders.


Could be run it back with core minus Kuemper and with a healthy Girard along with new rookie Myers

As really what does Colorado need rn. Average fan "A 2C"

Well why not see what Newhook or Myers before rushing into a singing or trade
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 8:35 p.m.
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Could be run it back with core minus Kuemper and with a healthy Girard along with new rookie Myers


too many pieces changed imo. kadri and burakovsky are gone too. avs still have $3m unspent for this season.
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 8:38 p.m.
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too many pieces changed imo. kadri and burakovsky are gone too. avs still have $3m unspent for this season.


True but Burakovsky at times was a healthy scratch at certain points and once Lehkonen came kind of sealed that fate. But I agree losing Kadri will be noticeable

Maybe what we will see is for the start of the season they will try Newhook or Myers. If both dont cut it then thats when we will see a 2c trade
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 8:41 p.m.
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True but Burakovsky at times was a healthy scratch at certain points and once Lehkonen came kind of sealed that fate. But I agree losing Kadri will be noticeable

Maybe what we will see is for the start of the season they will try Newhook or Myers. If both dont cut it then thats when we will see a 2c trade


yea i wont miss bura. he was the obvious cut. avs could try rants, compher, or newhook at 2c. newhook could be good to go but i figure one more season. stastny would have make a lot of sense for the avs.
Aug. 26, 2022 at 8:48 p.m.
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yea i wont miss bura. he was the obvious cut. avs could try rants, compher, or newhook at 2c. newhook could be good to go but i figure one more season. stastny would have make a lot of sense for the avs.


Probs newhook will be the 2c and by Dec if they see issues we will see Avs trade for a guy like Dvorak, Pius Suter, or Wennberg
Aug. 26, 2022 at 9:22 p.m.
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Probs newhook will be the 2c and by Dec if they see issues we will see Avs trade for a guy like Dvorak, Pius Suter, or Wennberg


Oskar Olausson + 1st for Dvorak 👀? Hughes and Sakic have had mutually benefiting trades before lol
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 9:27 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Oskar Olausson + 1st for Dvorak 👀? Hughes and Sakic have had mutually benefiting trades before lol


One of Dvorak, Pius Suter, or Wennberg will be with the Avs before the TDL thats my prediction

In terms of cap Suter is the easiest to fit but in terms of whose the best Dvorak

Its really up to what Avs management wants to do
Aug. 26, 2022 at 10:22 p.m.
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Any guesses on how much people think the cap will go up by in 2024. As unless something drastic changes we already know in 2023 cap should probs be 83.5mill

Im gonna say it goes from 83.5mill to 88mill or in other words a 4.5mill increase, could be more but I dont think it will be less as media guys wouldnt be making such a big deal about it and if we look at expansion increases the last big jump was 4.5 mill between 2017 and 2018. Or heck maybe it goes up by 6.5mill like it was supposed to before the Pandemic came so 90mill in 2024
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 10:36 p.m.
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Any guesses on how much people think the cap will go up by in 2024. As unless something drastic changes we already know in 2023 cap should probs be 83.5mill

Im gonna say it goes from 83.5mill to 88mill or in other words a 4.5mill increase, could be more but I dont think it will be less as media guys wouldnt be making such a big deal about it and if we look at expansion increases the last big jump was 4.5 mill between 2017 and 2018. Or heck maybe it goes up by 6.5mill like it was supposed to before the Pandemic came so 90mill in 2024


I was thinking around 5 mil. but we'll see
Aug. 26, 2022 at 10:41 p.m.
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who is signing Subban?
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Aug. 26, 2022 at 10:58 p.m.
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who is signing Subban?


Probs Seattle as they could use some a 6th or 7th guy rn
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Aug. 27, 2022 at 12:39 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangle
not sure what the avs plan is.

1. swing for the fences - kane/miller.
2. hoping for a specific player on wavier or on the cheap from a cap strapped team.
3. be the big guy in the room at deadline with double the cap space of other contenders.


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Aug. 27, 2022 at 5:55 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Any guesses on how much people think the cap will go up by in 2024. As unless something drastic changes we already know in 2023 cap should probs be 83.5mill

Im gonna say it goes from 83.5mill to 88mill or in other words a 4.5mill increase, could be more but I dont think it will be less as media guys wouldnt be making such a big deal about it and if we look at expansion increases the last big jump was 4.5 mill between 2017 and 2018. Or heck maybe it goes up by 6.5mill like it was supposed to before the Pandemic came so 90mill in 2024


Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
I was thinking around 5 mil. but we'll see


iirc the cap increased by an average of 4.5% year by year the seasons between the 12-13 lockout and the 19-20 pandemic, seems like a reasonable foundation to peg any future assumptions to.
Given that the league is projecting revenue at record levels for this season and onward, I could see the post 23-24 increase be around 4%.

4% increase (year by year) post 2024 will have the upper cap limit at the following amounts:
23-24 - 83 500 000
24-25 - 86 840 000
25-26 - 90 313 600
26-27 - 93 926 144
27-28 - 97 683 190

This 4% estimate may be a little bit conservative though.
Also it may not be a straight line increase either, more likely a smaller bump at 3.5-4% for the 24-25 season due to lingering escrow liabilities, to later stabilize at an average year by year increase closer to 5%.
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Aug. 27, 2022 at 9:10 a.m.
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Why are there acgm trading Nick zuki. Is there a rumor. If there is then that would be horrible for the habs no matter the return
 
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