Detroit already has their 2C in Andrew Copp and then Marco Kasper in 1-2 years.

Its been reported that the Habs would be LUCKY to get a THIRD ROUND PICK for Dvorak

Detroit also has no use for him as they have Andrew Copp as 2C who is better than Dvorak

Yes and I'm sure the habs would only give up a 7th for McDavid. It's called negotiating with the media. The fact people are calling about Dvorak makes me think that he'll get more than a 3rd, if he even gets moved. I'd be happy to keep him

Far better player called Oliver Bjorkstrand was recently traded for a third and fourth round pick. Why should a worse player in Dvorak get such a better return?

Yeah all these trades extremely heavily favour Montreal and I don't think any of the other teams would even think about considering them.

Columbus had just signed Gaudreau and had to move someone. They had no leverage. Dvorak is also a centre and they hold more value. He's also not as bad as fans make him look.

Dvorak is a solid third liner at most. He won't be getting a first, and two second round picks. I see a second round pick as the VERY MOST he could get. He has never even gotten more than 40 points in a season before... Heck, he has never even gotten 20 goals in a season before...

Detroit counters your offer with Taro Tsujimoto in exchange for Montreal's 2024 1st. He'll be a great 2C behind Suzuki

I will present the following FACTS and let you draw your own conclusions.

1) Canadiens recently acquired a 1st to take on 6.375M and a maybe injured Sean Monahan's 1 year at 6.375M
2) Mike Hoffman has 2 years left at 4.5M (9M total)
3) Even injured Sean Monahan is a better player than Mike Hoffman
4) You have offered a 4th round pick to take on Hoffman's 4.5M x 2
5) The price to take on 4M of Salary for 1 season this offseason seems to be a 2nd round pick if the player you are moving is undesirable

It will cost more to dump Hoffman
Oilers trade is fair
Easy no from Detroit. Dovark will not get you a first
Drouin trade far enough value wise doubt it will be the leafs
Very VERY easy no from Vegas, for one Armia is a cap dump and two he only has 1 year left so why trade a 3rd for a bottom sixers rights?
Monahan might be fair? But IDK
That Islanders trade is laughable. Anderson is a cap dump if you want to say GMs value him at a first fine but you would ignoring how GMs value Dvorak for a 3rd. Either way easy no
Allen could get that much but depends on the season he has

LOL Thinking that Dvorak is getting that kind of return is pretty hilarious, Especially from a team that's pretty set at 2C for the foreseeable future.

These trades couldn’t be more unrealistc. My god

I'm not sure how you can say Anderson is a cap dump BUT not Beauvilier. Beau is paid like a top6 but has never scored more than 39 pts and Lou was trying to move him all Summer. Anderson when he came off a 19 goal season, is such a presence on the ice while every GM has tried to acquire him one way or the other. There's hundreds of Beau in the NHL and maybe a half dozen players like Anderson. I agree. There is a disconnect but it's from you. Scarcity alone makes Josh the much more valuable player.

Detroit declines. Yzerman isn't trying to get himself fired. You obviously don't know much about the Red Wings roster. Yzerman just signed Copp, Perron and Kubalik. Why would he want Dvorak?

It’s shocking to see that some still don’t understand the concept of cap hits…

Wings have solidified the center position for the present and the future. Cool was signed to be the #2 center and Kasper is the center hopefully for the future. Makes no sense to trade 1st round picks until the Wings are a bonified contender. Wings not trading for a center anyways. MB got fleeced in the Dvorak trade and other GMs, espicially Yzerman.

Bjorkstrand is only 1 million more expensive, but the difference in value between the two is much more than 1 mil. Shocking to see someone foolish enough to defend this trade.

this has GOT to be a troll post...

30 point wingers aren't "scarce".

No, it's a standard Habs fan post. They're all like this.

I don't want to lump them ALL together, as I've seen a few chime in as voices of reason when the mob is losing it's mind (a couple lone bring spots spared my very dimming faith in their fanbase during the Petry lunacy), but yea... the majority of them on here are, well... out there.

I would be willing to bet that at least 50% of the people on my ignore list are Habs fans.

LOL Beau is only paid 4.4 million. Anderson scored 20 goals once. And has had more points than him in every NHL season besides his rookie season and 17-18. Add into that Beau is younger. Giving up Bailey whom had more points than him in nearly ever NHL season plus a first and a prospect. There are many Anderson in the NHL too. Also don't act like Anderson isn't a cap dump. And Beau did have 20 goals in 17-18... He would also of had 20 goals in the COVID years

You just said a whole bunch of conjecture.
Typical for ppl here that rely on fancy stats and a bunch of metrics that are deemed worthless one minute and meaningful the next minute from guys like Jfresh, while you dont actually watch the games

You mention a season where Beau scored 20 goals (ONCE!) Josh has scored many more goals. 4 of Josh's season total in goals beat Beauvilier's best years besides Beau's 1 decent year with 21 goals.
And no, there isnt many players like Anderson otherwise teams like the Bruins, Habs, Flyers, etc wouldnt have been so interested in acquiring him and legit insiders have called his contract a bargain.

Josh Anderson scored
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20 goals ONCE. Yes it was 27 but 4 years ago. Beau makes 1.4 million less and has only 2 years vs 5 years. And yea the Habs are interested considering he is ON THE TEAM. The flyers also were interested in Risto, TDA and Delarsisus (spelt wrong i know) so using them as an example isn't the best idea. Fine you can argue Beau is a cap dump but how isn't Anderson?

I'd rather pay 2x$4.15M for the 25 year old who scored 32 points last year than 5x$5.5M for the 28 year old who scored 32.

also gonna need a source on that highlighted part, because while I don't think Seravelli is worthless, I think him saying that some GMs value him at a 1st is nowhere near the same as "every GM would give up a 1st for him".