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Competitive rebuild

Created by: Isles10
Team: 2023-24 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 10, 2023
Published: Jan. 10, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$859,000
3$859,000
2$859,000
3$859,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$825,000
1$825,000
3$2,500,000
3$850,000
8$8,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$775,000
3$850,000
3$2,500,000
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Olausson, Oskar
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
2.
3.
NYI
    Future Considerations
    ARI
    1. Bailey, Josh
    2. 2023 3rd round pick (NYI)
    3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
    Additional Details:
    The 2023 3rd is for the conditions in the Andrew Ladd trade…
    4.
    NYI
    1. Meier, Timo [RFA Rights]
    SJS
    1. Dufour, William
    2. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
    Additional Details:
    Trade made at the draft (the pick is 15th overall)
    5.
    NYI
    1. Barrie, Tyson
    2. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
    3. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
    EDM
      Scott Mayfield (50% at the TDL), he extends with Edmonton.
      6.
      NYI
      1. Grans, Helge
      2. Petersen, Cal ($1,000,000 retained)
      3. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
      4. 2023 3rd round pick (PIT)
      LAK
      1. Wilde, Bode [RFA Rights]
      Additional Details:
      Semyon Varlamov (50% retained at the TDL).
      7.
      NYI
      1. 2023 3rd round pick (TBL)
      2. 2024 4th round pick (CHI)
      TBL
        Zach Parise at the TDL.
        Buyouts
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        2023
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        2024
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        22$83,500,000$83,025,000$0$82,500$475,000

        Roster

        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        $8,500,000$8,500,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 8
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        $9,150,000$9,150,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        RW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $7,000,000$7,000,000
        LW
        NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $7,350,000$7,350,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $863,333$863,333
        RW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $4,150,000$4,150,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $836,667$836,667 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
        C
        RFA - 2
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        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        RW, LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
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        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        C
        UFA - 4
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        $850,000$850,000
        RW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $5,750,000$5,750,000
        LD
        NTC
        UFA - 6
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $6,150,000$6,150,000
        RD
        NTC
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        G
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        LD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
        $4,500,000$4,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $850,000$850,000
        LD
        UFA - 1
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        RD
        UFA - 3
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $1,750,000$1,750,000
        RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $825,000$825,000
        LD
        UFA - 1

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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 10:58 a.m.
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        I’d rather San Jose keep the guaranteed commodity of a 30+ goal scorer
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 10:58 a.m.
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        Big no from Colorado and even bigger no from Arizona lol.

        Down bad
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        Big no from Colorado and even bigger no from Arizona lol.

        Down bad


        Big no from Colorado, why? Nelson is one of the most underrated centers in the league, he’s very good.. for a late 1st and a B-prospect?

        Bailey’s just got one year left and is owed 3.5M$ next season, I could definitely see Arizona doing that.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:01 a.m.
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        Quoting: glarson17
        I’d rather San Jose keep the guaranteed commodity of a 30+ goal scorer


        Yeah but Meier doesn’t line up with Sharks at all, I mean what’s the point? Dufour could be a very good top-6 winger and the 15th pick is very valuable in this particular draft..
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:03 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Big no from Colorado, why? Nelson is one of the most underrated centers in the league, he’s very good.. for a late 1st and a B-prospect?


        Assuming Nelson even waives for Denver, it's a Late first in a deep draft and a prospect in a very bare pool who can (in a few years) play a role on an ELC. Nelson is good but expensive and signed till he's 34 at over 5 mil aav. Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan for half the price or give Newhook another shot instead.

        Eat some salary and maybe they accept
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        Big no from Colorado and even bigger no from Arizona lol.

        Down bad


        Quoting: Isles10
        Big no from Colorado, why? Nelson is one of the most underrated centers in the league, he’s very good.. for a late 1st and a B-prospect?

        Bailey’s just got one year left and is owed 3.5M$ next season, I could definitely see Arizona doing that.


        Islanders wouldn’t sell Nelson for pennies on the dollar. They also aren’t trading Dobson + for Elias Pettersson.

        Then you have to account for the fact that Arizona isn’t taking on Bailey for a third, and that isn’t enough for Meier. It just doesn’t work tbh with you.
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:05 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Yeah but Meier doesn’t line up with Sharks at all, I mean what’s the point? Dufour could be a very good top-6 winger and the 15th pick is very valuable in this particular draft..


        with that logic, if you're rebuilding then Adam Pelech doesn't really line up with NYI at all, so what's the point? Why don't you move him?
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:06 a.m.
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        Assuming Nelson even waives for Denver, it's a Late first in a deep draft and a prospect in a very bare pool who can (in a few years) play a role on an ELC. Nelson is good but expensive and signed till he's 34 at over 5 mil aav. Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan for half the price or give Newhook another shot instead.

        Eat some salary and maybe they accept


        ”Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan […]", lol! yeah but Nelson is twice as good and Avs window is now obviously to try and win every year. Nelson's contract is a bargain.
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.
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        Canucks decline easily
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        Assuming Nelson even waives for Denver, it's a Late first in a deep draft and a prospect in a very bare pool who can (in a few years) play a role on an ELC. Nelson is good but expensive and signed till he's 34 at over 5 mil aav. Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan for half the price or give Newhook another shot instead.

        Eat some salary and maybe they accept


        Brock Nelson is on pace for 30 goals and 76 points in 82 games. This deal is unfair to the isles not Colorado.

        Also Monahan is hurt and he isn’t half the player Nelson is. He’s not half the player Pageau is either. He is an injury risk who looks like his best days might be behind him. Look I’m rooting for him as much as the next guy, but his injury history seriously impacts his trade value.
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
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        Quoting: tydini11
        Canucks decline easily


        They shouldn’t. This deal would make the isles worse, not the other way around.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
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        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        with that logic, if you're rebuilding then Adam Pelech doesn't really line up with NYI at all, so what's the point? Why don't you move him?


        Quoting: stephane_robidas
        with that logic, if you're rebuilding then Adam Pelech doesn't really line up with NYI at all, so what's the point? Why don't you move him?


        ”Competitive rebuild” or a re-shape of the roster, call it what you want, Isles is way ahead of the Sharks, don’t you agree? Karlsson and Meier/Hertl is the only thing keeping Sharks from not competing for Bedard.
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        ”Colorado could just sign a guy like Monahan […]", lol! yeah but Nelson is twice as good and Avs window is now obviously to try and win every year. Nelson's contract is a bargain.


        Yeah Nelson’s contract is a bargain as is the Dobson contract. So stop trying to trade either of them lol.
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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        Quoting: tydini11
        Canucks decline easily


        Yeah I would decline as well from the Canucks POV, but the offer in it self is not bad..
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        Yeah Nelson’s contract is a bargain as is the Dobson contract. So stop trying to trade either of them lol.


        Haha well, if you could replace them with Pettersson and have Räty as your 3C I would do it in a heartbeat.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        ”Competitive rebuild” or a re-shape of the roster, call it what you want, Isles is way ahead of the Sharks, don’t you agree? Karlsson and Meier/Hertl is the only thing keeping Sharks from not competing for Bedard.


        Vancouver isn’t trading Pettersson and NY isn’t trading Dobson. That’s the major issue with this. All your trades after that work on the assumption either team would consider it. Vancouver management probably thinks Pettersson is the best center in hockey, and the islanders know Dobson is an elite righty defenseman who isn’t worth significantly less than Pettersson.

        Trading Nelson and Dobson would be a deathblow to this roster. The new defense would get caved in, and that would be that.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Haha well, if you could replace them with Pettersson and have Räty as your 3C I would do it in a heartbeat.


        U couldn’t. And ur defense is now one of the worst in the league.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Haha well, if you could replace them with Pettersson and have Räty as your 3C I would do it in a heartbeat.


        Dude. You can’t trade your best puck moving d man and replace him with Tyson Barrie and Nick Jensen.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:14 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        Big no from Colorado, why? Nelson is one of the most underrated centers in the league, he’s very good.. for a late 1st and a B-prospect?

        Bailey’s just got one year left and is owed 3.5M$ next season, I could definitely see Arizona doing that.


        I know the Avs have a ****ty prospect pool, but Olausson isn’t a B prospect. He’s a former first rounder and arguably the best prospect in the Avs system (depending on how you feel about Behrens).
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:17 a.m.
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        Quoting: tydini11
        Canucks decline easily


        islanders decline easily lol what. Islanders only consider if they take out Dobson
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.
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        Probably a fair ask for Nelson, but the Avs can't afford to add that salary without moving someone like Girard out. I don't think they'll want to do that, and will try to add without robbing from a strength, but I could be wrong.
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        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles5513
        Vancouver isn’t trading Pettersson and NY isn’t trading Dobson. That’s the major issue with this. All your trades after that work on the assumption either team would consider it. Vancouver management probably thinks Pettersson is the best center in hockey, and the islanders know Dobson is an elite righty defenseman who isn’t worth significantly less than Pettersson.

        Trading Nelson and Dobson would be a deathblow to this roster. The new defense would get caved in, and that would be that.


        I hear you and respect your opinion but Pettersson’s been a top-10, top-5 player in the league this year and is only 24.. having him, Barzal and Räty down the middle is the makeup of a serious contender 7-10 years to come considering their age. Barrie is a very good pp-guy and gets limited ice-time 5on5 in this scenario and Pelech-Pulock is still there, Romanov will grow his game season by season, Wotherspoon looks legit, though small sample size, Jensen is a severely underrated defenseman… + they got Sorokin..

        I know the trade is highly unrealistic, because these trades never happen, but if the Canucks keep Horvat, then they would have Horvat 1C, Miller 2C and Pageau 3C + Dobson and Hughes as their cornerstone pieces, it would make both teams better imo.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
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        Quoting: turtlemountain
        I know the Avs have a ****ty prospect pool, but Olausson isn’t a B prospect. He’s a former first rounder and arguably the best prospect in the Avs system (depending on how you feel about Behrens).


        Just because Olausson is the Avs best prospect doesn’t make him any better compared to other prospects, he’s definitely a B-prospect.
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
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        Quoting: Isles10
        I hear you and respect your opinion but Pettersson’s been a top-10, top-5 player in the league this year and is only 24.. having him, Barzal and Räty down the middle is the makeup of a serious contender 7-10 years to come considering their age. Barrie is a very good pp-guy and gets limited ice-time 5on5 in this scenario and Pelech-Pulock is still there, Romanov will grow him game season by season, Wotherspoon looks legit, though small sample size, Jensen is severely underrated defenseman… + they got Sorokin..

        I know the trade is highly unrealistic, because these trades never happen, but if the Canucks keep Horvat, then they would have Horvat 1C, Miller 2C and Pageau 3C + Dobson and Hughes as their cornerstone pieces, it would make both teams better imo.


        One team would have a strong d, and one team would have strong centers. Just creates a new problem for each organization. Vancouver’s forward core is too old as it is….
        Jan. 10, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
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        Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
        islanders decline easily lol what. Islanders only consider if they take out Dobson


        Pettersson’s been a top-5 player this season at 24 yo, lol..
         
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