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Is Boston really going to overpay for Gavrikov

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I understand what Gavrikov can do and makes any teams defense better but are they really going to give up a 1st, 3rd, and 4th for him?

Also, where does he fit?
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 8:56 a.m.
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    I think he's going to be the second pairing where you put him, and they probably plan on resigning him at some point. I wonder if they trade DeBrusk for a 1st+ to CGY. Whatever it is that they do, I trust that they will be better off for it in the end.
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 8:58 a.m.
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    Picks are like scratch tickets. If you're lucky you win big, at worst you hope you get your money back (they become a service NHL regular), but more times than not you're going to be left with nothing.

    The odds of a late 1st being an NHL player (100+ games) is around 68%, while a 3rd has a 27% chance and a 4th has a 22% chance.

    Where does he fit? Well you can play him in a lot of place depending on the type of team your playing or the game situation. He can play with McAvoy on the top pair all the way down to the 3rd pair with either Clifton or Forbort. He's a swiss-army knife
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 8:58 a.m.
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    Quoting: GMBL
    I think he's going to be the second pairing where you put him, and they probably plan on resigning him at some point. I wonder if they trade DeBrusk for a 1st+ to CGY. Whatever it is that they do, I trust that they will be better off for it in the end.


    Why would they trade DeBrusk?
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 9:12 a.m.
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Why would they trade DeBrusk?


    If the opportunity presents itself to get a player on ELC that can contribute and a 1st and some, they probably would trade him for cap reasons if need be. Likely in the off-season and not now.
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 9:17 a.m.
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Picks are like scratch tickets. If you're lucky you win big, at worst you hope you get your money back (they become a service NHL regular), but more times than not you're going to be left with nothing.

    The odds of a late 1st being an NHL player (100+ games) is around 68%, while a 3rd has a 27% chance and a 4th has a 22% chance.

    Where does he fit? Well you can play him in a lot of place depending on the type of team your playing or the game situation. He can play with McAvoy on the top pair all the way down to the 3rd pair with either Clifton or Forbort. He's a swiss-army knife


    People really over value draft picks its kind of crazy... And Boston's first is going to be at best 23rd and most likely 30th - 32nd. I rather have CBJ try and get a decent prospect instead of all those picks...
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 9:20 a.m.
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    Quoting: GMBL
    I think he's going to be the second pairing where you put him, and they probably plan on resigning him at some point. I wonder if they trade DeBrusk for a 1st+ to CGY. Whatever it is that they do, I trust that they will be better off for it in the end.


    Lol, what? Is that a joke?
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 9:22 a.m.
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    Quoting: Civil_Eng_PE
    People really over value draft picks its kind of crazy... And Boston's first is going to be at best 23rd and most likely 30th - 32nd. I rather have CBJ try and get a decent prospect instead of all those picks...


    Exactly, picks aren't guaranteed in terms of getting a future NHL player. The prospects/players themselves are more valuable considering you already know what you got in that player
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 9:22 a.m.
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    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Picks are like scratch tickets. If you're lucky you win big, at worst you hope you get your money back (they become a service NHL regular), but more times than not you're going to be left with nothing.

    The odds of a late 1st being an NHL player (100+ games) is around 68%, while a 3rd has a 27% chance and a 4th has a 22% chance.

    Where does he fit? Well you can play him in a lot of place depending on the type of team your playing or the game situation. He can play with McAvoy on the top pair all the way down to the 3rd pair with either Clifton or Forbort. He's a swiss-army knife


    The problem is - he isn’t good. The Bruins currently have three left shot d on the roster that are better than him.

    Quoting: Civil_Eng_PE
    People really over value draft picks its kind of crazy... And Boston's first is going to be at best 23rd and most likely 30th - 32nd. I rather have CBJ try and get a decent prospect instead of all those picks...


    I think the highest that boston pick could be at this point is 27th. Until it gets to the final four picks, the order is based on regular season standings, not how the playoffs work out.
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 9:23 a.m.
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    Quoting: DefenseFirst
    Lol, what? Is that a joke?


    Quoting: GMBL
    If the opportunity presents itself to get a player on ELC that can contribute and a 1st and some, they probably would trade him for cap reasons if need be. Likely in the off-season and not now.
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: DefenseFirst
    I think the highest that boston pick could be at this point is 27th. Until it gets to the final four picks, the order is based on regular season standings, not how the playoffs work out.


    Ahhh. that makes sense. I thought it was who ever goes out round one sorted by best regular season record. Did not know they only do that for the final 4.
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 9:39 a.m.
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    Quoting: GMBL
    If the opportunity presents itself to get a player on ELC that can contribute and a 1st and some, they probably would trade him for cap reasons if need be. Likely in the off-season and not now.


    I think they'd explore finding another ways to gain cap space. DeBrusk is very well liked in the locker room and a guy they should be looking to sign long-term.
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 10:00 a.m.
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    It looks like bruins wanted an extension and gavrikov isn’t ready to sign yet.
    AZ wanted Debrusk and Swayman +++ for chychrun and that was a non starter for Sweeney.
    They probably circle back to schenn at this point
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 10:03 a.m.
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    Quoting: Civil_Eng_PE
    People really over value draft picks its kind of crazy... And Boston's first is going to be at best 23rd and most likely 30th - 32nd. I rather have CBJ try and get a decent prospect instead of all those picks...


    I could see Gavrikov returning a 1st and 4th, but not that 3rd pick. He is just not that good for a rental player.
    CBJ have done very well in the draft over the last 3-4 years, and have a ton of blue-chip prospects in the pipeline.
    The problem is, they are starting to collect too many of them, and they just cannot break them into the lineup.
    Even with a team with serious injury issues and man-games lost, at some point they are going to need to trade a few away for more now-ready players or future picks.
    Also, Jarmo just doesn't like to trade picks away, or prospects either...which he needs to do to be more successful and have a much more competitive team on a more consistent basis.
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 10:19 a.m.
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    If they were to trade that for Gavy, extend him, than flip Grizz for 2nd/prospect i’d say that’s a pretty good move.

    Gavy/Mac
    Lindy/Carlo

    I don’t think it’s the best move out there, but i’d be certainly be ok with it. I would not do the rumored 1st/Lohrei/pick that was going around. That’s insane. Lohrei or the 1st, pick 1 but not both.

    What they should do is circle back to Chychrun. They have lost alot of leverage at this point, pulling from the lineup they kind of have to move him now. Nobody is going to give them their asking price. ‘23 1st, ‘25 2nd, either Lohrei/Lysell, Grizz, Smith, Reilly for Chyc/Bjugstad/Cam Dineen. Give it a shot, if not move on…again.
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: Civil_Eng_PE
    People really over value draft picks its kind of crazy... And Boston's first is going to be at best 23rd and most likely 30th - 32nd. I rather have CBJ try and get a decent prospect instead of all those picks...


    But that's the point of obtaining more picks, better chance of hitting it big.
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 11:14 a.m.
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    But that's the point of obtaining more picks, better chance of hitting it big.


    But you did see what happened with Boston when they had 3 first round picks that one draft. They completely missed on all three, I would rather have a player that is known about and has huge potential
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.
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    But you did see what happened with Boston when they had 3 first round picks that one draft. They completely missed on all three, I would rather have a player that is known about and has huge potential


    Not sure how you can say missed on all three when one of them is an integral part of the 1st line. But I understand the concept you're trying to say.
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
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    Quoting: Chopper02
    But that's the point of obtaining more picks, better chance of hitting it big.


    True, but in CBJ's current situation I feel like we have too many young kids right now... Too many have looked good in juniors and the AHL and we cant fit them into the main team lineup. Only reason it has been okay this year is cause half the team in injured. Adding 3 more prospects from the draft seems like over kill. A 1st + prospect/veteran role player would be better IMO. Or maybe just a great prospect and nothing else.
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: KennyBoi
    Not sure how you can say missed on all three when one of them is an integral part of the 1st line. But I understand the concept you're trying to say.


    Quoting: Babatunde
    But you did see what happened with Boston when they had 3 first round picks that one draft. They completely missed on all three, I would rather have a player that is known about and has huge potential


    37 goals in last 78 games (including playoffs) as a 1st liner. Top 10 in career points from his draft class. Complete whiff. 🙄
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    Feb. 20, 2023 at 12:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    37 goals in last 78 games (including playoffs) as a 1st liner. Top 10 in career points from his draft class. Complete whiff. 🙄


    Not a whiff obviously, but there was better talent on the board even at that time and Boston chose 3 guys who were expected to go later. People still hanging on that draft 8 years later need to move on from it.
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: Babatunde
    But you did see what happened with Boston when they had 3 first round picks that one draft. They completely missed on all three, I would rather have a player that is known about and has huge potential


    Just because Boston made bad picks it doesn't mean teams should abandon the practice if they want to rebuild/retool. Because of that bomb, they were able to get McAvoy the next season who is more important than the 3 picks who came after during the 2015 Bruins blunder. In 2014 Pasta was a late first. Seems to have worked out nicely.
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: Chopper02
    Not a whiff obviously, but there was better talent on the board even at that time and Boston chose 3 guys who were expected to go later. People still hanging on that draft 8 years later need to move on from it.


    There were multiple LWs on the board with 1st round grades. They took the one they liked the best, which with Sweeney is always going to be the best skater, not going to fault them for that, Debrusk turned out to be a better choice than all but Connor and better than other LW rated ahead of him like Biitner and E.Svech. Rankings are not everything.

    Seny on the other hand…
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 3:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    There were multiple LWs on the board with 1st round grades. They took the one they liked the best, which with Sweeney is always going to be the best skater, not going to fault them for that, Debrusk turned out to be a better choice than all but Connor and better than other LW rated ahead of him like Biitner and E.Svech. Rankings are not everything.

    Seny on the other hand…


    I think DeBrusk was a fine choice, but taking Seny over Connor and Chabot over Zboril who were both ranked much lower is not good. But again, that's in the past. People also forget Sweeney had just come on as GM and didn't have much time to prepare.
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: Chopper02
    I think DeBrusk was a fine choice, but taking Seny over Connor and Chabot over Zboril who were both ranked much lower is not good. But again, that's in the past. People also forget Sweeney had just come on as GM and didn't have much time to prepare.


    Zboril was ranked higher than Chabot. Can’t have it both ways.

    They tried to trade down with the Seny pick, draft was so deep it hurt them, teams were not in rush to move up. They were always looking at D, LW, RW with those picks regardless.
    Feb. 20, 2023 at 5:37 p.m.
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    Cant stress how much BOS shouldnt overpay for Gavrikov.

    Just makes no sense for a lateral move. paying a steeper price for an upgrade in Chychrun would make more sense IMO

    Only way they get should get Gavrikov is if they trade Gryz for other assets (like getting those 2nd rounders back or something)
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