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Team: 2023-24 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 13, 2023
Published: Mar. 13, 2023
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#1 and #2
Trades
1.
CHI
  1. Chiarot, Ben
  2. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
2.
CHI
  1. 2023 1st round pick (CBJ)
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Fantilli
CBJ
  1. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
  2. 2023 1st round pick (TBL)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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20$82,500,000$43,424,706$0$1,785,000$39,075,294
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$505,000$505K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$758,333$758,333
RW
RFA - 1
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$758,333$758,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
C
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW
UFA - 1
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$820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW
RFA - 1
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$859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
LD
RFA - 3
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$883,750$883,750
G
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$800,000$800,000
RW, C
RFA - 1

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Mar. 13, 2023 at 12:46 a.m.
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Yet this team will still make it out of the first round before the Leafs do ):
Mar. 13, 2023 at 12:57 a.m.
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laugh laugh You'd have to pay us, To take Seth Jones off of your hands.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 1:03 a.m.
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Seider has the 1RD spot sewn up so bringing in a $9.5M 2RD doesn't make much sense. Detroit would be more likely to use those assets to trade up for Fantilli than to trade in Jones.
Mar. 13, 2023 at 1:36 a.m.
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If Columbus has the second overall pick, they take Fantilli themselves. Zero chance Jarmo trades down unless Columbus ends up out of the top three.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 6:05 a.m.
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Wings not taking on the Jones deal and definitely not for that.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 6:51 a.m.
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No chance in hell that Detroit takes Seth Jones contract off your books AND pays 2 1sts to do it.
Mar. 13, 2023 at 8:43 a.m.
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Neither DET nor CBJ consider these proposals for even a second.

CBJ has been desperately searching for a 1C for their entire 22 year existence. They aren’t about to pass up on one now if they finally get some lottery luck and land a top-2 pick. You would have to move heaven and earth to pry that pick away from Jarmo. For that pick to be traded it would have to absolutely wreck your franchise.
Mar. 13, 2023 at 9:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Dark_Matter
Seider has the 1RD spot sewn up so bringing in a $9.5M 2RD doesn't make much sense. Detroit would be more likely to use those assets to trade up for Fantilli than to trade in Jones.


Quoting: DeadWingsv2
No chance in hell that Detroit takes Seth Jones contract off your books AND pays 2 1sts to do it.


Quoting: mikearky
Wings not taking on the Jones deal and definitely not for that.


Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
laugh laugh You'd have to pay us, To take Seth Jones off of your hands.


DET isn't trading for Jones, agree with you guys on that one. But just to be clear Jones has been one of the better defenders in the NHL this year (more impressive on this terrible roster) and is absolutley not a cap dump, and the hawks don't need to "dump" his money. He's maybe a million overpaid but still absolutely a top pair D.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 9:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
DET isn't trading for Jones, agree with you guys on that one. But just to be clear Jones has been one of the better defenders in the NHL this year (more impressive on this terrible roster) and is absolutley not a cap dump, and the hawks don't need to "dump" his money. He's maybe a million overpaid but still absolutely a top pair D.


Ok so 2 firsts and a capdump for a player that'd be 2nd pairing and overpaid.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 9:19 a.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Ok so 2 firsts and a capdump for a player that'd be 2nd pairing and overpaid.


Hawks aren't trading Jones. He will be named the next captain when Toews (likely) leaves this summer
Mar. 13, 2023 at 9:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Hawks aren't trading Jones. He will be named the next captain when Toews (likely) leaves this summer


Doesn't affect me so cool cool
Mar. 13, 2023 at 9:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
DET isn't trading for Jones, agree with you guys on that one. But just to be clear Jones has been one of the better defenders in the NHL this year (more impressive on this terrible roster) and is absolutley not a cap dump, and the hawks don't need to "dump" his money. He's maybe a million overpaid but still absolutely a top pair D.


Actual stats seem to heavily disagree with your opinion:
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 9:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
DET isn't trading for Jones, agree with you guys on that one. But just to be clear Jones has been one of the better defenders in the NHL this year (more impressive on this terrible roster) and is absolutley not a cap dump, and the hawks don't need to "dump" his money. He's maybe a million overpaid but still absolutely a top pair D.

FWIW, I'm not saying he's a cap dump, but he IS overpaid and that contract IS a negative. Just like Erik Karlsson, who is likely going to win the Norris this season, a guy can be a good to great player and and still have a bad contract...
Mar. 13, 2023 at 10:07 a.m.
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Whoever does not take Matvei Michkov at #2 will be making a huge mistake. There I said it.
Mar. 13, 2023 at 11:39 a.m.
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Quoting: squashmaple
If Columbus has the second overall pick, they take Fantilli themselves. Zero chance Jarmo trades down unless Columbus ends up out of the top three.


Almost a Zero chance Jarmo has a job at draft time
Mar. 13, 2023 at 12:01 p.m.
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Almost a Zero chance Jarmo has a job at draft time


Why? Because the team had a bad season when dealt a **** ton of injuries, and now they're about to get an elite player in the draft?
Mar. 13, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Actual stats seem to heavily disagree with your opinion:
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https://twitter.com/ARHockeyStats/status/1634947365437308929?s=20

Depends where you get your stats from I guess....
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 12:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Bellashmella
Almost a Zero chance Jarmo has a job at draft time


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Why? Because the team had a bad season when dealt a **** ton of injuries, and now they're about to get an elite player in the draft?


It's just wishful thinking. Jarmo has been devastating the Blackhawks for years now and their fans just want the bad man out of the NHL.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 1:39 p.m.
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It's just wishful thinking. Jarmo has been devastating the Blackhawks for years now and their fans just want the bad man out of the NHL.


I would say that the Hawks are the 'bad men' and they should be out of the NHL. Somehow Bettman has given them a pass bigger than his pet team in Arizona.
Mar. 13, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Actual stats seem to heavily disagree with your opinion


Those stats are heavily effected by the first few months of the season. If you isolate how he has played since the new year, and even more so since the all star break, he is playing much better than that player card would have you believe. He has been playing like a bonafide number one defenseman. Whether he can continue that trend into next season and beyond, only time will tell.

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Mar. 13, 2023 at 1:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Garak
Those stats are heavily effected by the first few months of the season. If you isolate how he has played since the new year, and even more so since the all star break, he is playing much better than that player card would have you believe. He has been playing like a bonafide number one defenseman. Whether he can continue that trend into next season and beyond, only time will tell.


This paints a prettier picture, but it doesn't paint the picture of a man I want to risk attaching 9.5M to for the next 7 years... with a full NMC.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
This paints a prettier picture, but it doesn't paint the picture of a man I want to risk attaching 9.5M to for the next 7 years... with a full NMC.


Sure. Not trying to sell him to you. Unless his on ice performance becomes consistently elite and he asks for a trade, he will be in CHI for the duration of his contract. I have liked him more than I thought I would. Just saying there is a lot of hate floating around about Jones that isn't warranted. It isn't his fault Stan Bowman is a moron and gave up way too much to acquire him and then overpaid him. But, also, within a few years, a $9.5M contract will be pretty commonplace.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 2:03 p.m.
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Sure. Not trying to sell him to you. Unless his on ice performance becomes consistently elite and he asks for a trade, he will be in CHI for the duration of his contract. I have liked him more than I thought I would. Just saying there is a lot of hate floating around about Jones that isn't warranted. It isn't his fault Stan Bowman is a moron and gave up way too much to acquire him and then overpaid him. But, also, within a few years, a $9.5M contract will be pretty commonplace.


Yeah, the player always gets the flack for an idiotic GM. We know that all too well from the Ken Holland era in Detroit.
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Mar. 13, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Bellashmella
Almost a Zero chance Jarmo has a job at draft time


Well, you clearly know more about Columbus than me so I'll defer to your expertise. In any case, no GM no matter who he is of the Columbus Blue Jackets--a team which as you as an expert know has never had a 1c in its entire 222 year history--is going to trade down from a top two pick in the 2023 NHL entry draft.
Mar. 13, 2023 at 10:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
DET isn't trading for Jones, agree with you guys on that one. But just to be clear Jones has been one of the better defenders in the NHL this year (more impressive on this terrible roster) and is absolutley not a cap dump, and the hawks don't need to "dump" his money. He's maybe a million overpaid but still absolutely a top pair D.


Quoting: Garak
Sure. Not trying to sell him to you. Unless his on ice performance becomes consistently elite and he asks for a trade, he will be in CHI for the duration of his contract. I have liked him more than I thought I would. Just saying there is a lot of hate floating around about Jones that isn't warranted. It isn't his fault Stan Bowman is a moron and gave up way too much to acquire him and then overpaid him. But, also, within a few years, a $9.5M contract will be pretty commonplace.


My bad guys, didn’t mean for a ****post to devolve into this whole thing. I thought the title and trade were obviously unserious.
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