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2023 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #1: Beg for Bedard

May 14, 2023 at 6:59 a.m.
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Hypothetical scanario: Kyle Davidson thinks he's Peter Chiarelli and wants to trade the first overall pick in in a 1-for-1 trade. Whicih players in the league are off-limits and which players would the Hawks accept straight up?

I think the only off-limits player is McDavid, and Chicago would at least strongly consider Draisaitl, Makar, Matthews, and M. Tkachuk.

I guess an alternate way of phrasing the question is: Which players currently in the NHL have MORE trade value than Connor Bedard?
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May 14, 2023 at 7:36 a.m.
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May 14, 2023 at 7:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Hurricanes_WPG
Hypothetical scanario: Kyle Davidson thinks he's Peter Chiarelli and wants to trade the first overall pick in in a 1-for-1 trade. Whicih players in the league are off-limits and which players would the Hawks accept straight up?

I think the only off-limits player is McDavid, and Chicago would at least strongly consider Draisaitl, Makar, Matthews, and M. Tkachuk.

I guess an alternate way of phrasing the question is: Which players currently in the NHL have MORE trade value than Connor Bedard?


Jack Hughes would be the only viable option for the Blackhawks if trading Connor Bedard that I could think of.
Devils would never do that though.
May 14, 2023 at 9:04 a.m.
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Quoting: Hurricanes_WPG
Hypothetical scanario: Kyle Davidson thinks he's Peter Chiarelli and wants to trade the first overall pick in in a 1-for-1 trade. Whicih players in the league are off-limits and which players would the Hawks accept straight up?

I think the only off-limits player is McDavid, and Chicago would at least strongly consider Draisaitl, Makar, Matthews, and M. Tkachuk.

I guess an alternate way of phrasing the question is: Which players currently in the NHL have MORE trade value than Connor Bedard?


Matthews. I’d do that easily from the leaf’s perspective since Matthews only has one year left of his deal.
May 14, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Hurricanes_WPG
Hypothetical scanario: Kyle Davidson thinks he's Peter Chiarelli and wants to trade the first overall pick in in a 1-for-1 trade. Whicih players in the league are off-limits and which players would the Hawks accept straight up?

I think the only off-limits player is McDavid, and Chicago would at least strongly consider Draisaitl, Makar, Matthews, and M. Tkachuk.

I guess an alternate way of phrasing the question is: Which players currently in the NHL have MORE trade value than Connor Bedard?


These are assets to the owners. The NHL’s purpose is to enable the individual ownership groups to make money. Bedard is an asset worth over a hundred million even if he flops during the time you control him, over a billion if he overperforms, yet costs you a small fraction, especially upfront. In the current economic times where commercial real estate, business credit, treasuries, crypto, and inflation are all various levels of on fire, upfront cash is king of kings.

Chicagos owner would want more than that to trade him. I don’t think that exists. That isn’t McDavid because you need to send ~20 mil his way each year for salary, amenities, and insurance as well as entice him with a competitive ($) team.

This wouldn’t be a hockey trade even if it were presented to the public as such. Bedard would be traded for real estate/equity/businesses behind the scenes. The same return doesn’t exist in the NHL.
May 14, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Hurricanes_WPG
Hypothetical scanario: Kyle Davidson thinks he's Peter Chiarelli and wants to trade the first overall pick in in a 1-for-1 trade. Whicih players in the league are off-limits and which players would the Hawks accept straight up?

I think the only off-limits player is McDavid, and Chicago would at least strongly consider Draisaitl, Makar, Matthews, and M. Tkachuk.

I guess an alternate way of phrasing the question is: Which players currently in the NHL have MORE trade value than Connor Bedard?


I think anyone who is in the group of Makar, McKinnon, McDavid, Drai, Matthews, etc, trading for Bedard would be a high risk, high reward move, I think anyone who is currently playing top level hockey would be off limits, simply too risky to move them for Bedard
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May 15, 2023 at 10:03 a.m.
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So Sandin put David Reinbacher in the hospital
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May 15, 2023 at 10:06 a.m.
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So Sandin put David Reinbacher in the hospital


Gonna be awkward when the Caps pick him at 8
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May 15, 2023 at 10:06 a.m.
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So Sandin put David Reinbacher in the hospital


'tis but a fraction of his power
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May 15, 2023 at 10:07 a.m.
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Gonna be awkward when the Caps pick him at 8

Leonard is a cap
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'tis but a fraction of his power


That was orlov type sh*t right there
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May 15, 2023 at 12:09 p.m.
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bad news for acgms
May 15, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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Deleted post, because I accidentally posted in the wrong thread LOL
May 15, 2023 at 1:35 p.m.
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Prediction for tonight:
SEA 1-4 DAL


Seattle hasn't had a problem "KRAKEN" Jake Oettinger. I can't see them going quietly into the night for one goal. I think they pot at least 2. But ultimately, Dallas' big boys show up tonight. 4-2 Final. Hopefully we get a really tight game tonight, as this series really hasn't seen one yet. Outside of probably only game 1.
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May 15, 2023 at 1:53 p.m.
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If im MLSE big brain move

Promote Shanahan and Dubas (CEO and President)

Then hire Eric Tulsky as GM. Carolina loves him and want to keep him but would they be able to outbid Toronto's offer. As money does talk

Coach man options suck this year I guess Laviolette lul
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May 15, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.
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bad news for acgms


Not sure what else he'd say. Could you imagine the hate he'd get if he said anything else?
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May 15, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
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Not sure what else he'd say. Could you imagine the hate he'd get if he said anything else?


He could have gone im unsure of things rn I need to take my time and see

Like other guys who arent full on committed
May 15, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.
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He could have gone im unsure of things rn I need to take my time and see

Like other guys who arent full on committed


even that would get the rumour mill blowing, Matthews is in a market that for better or worse, anything other than commitment is scrutinized
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May 15, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.
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even that would get the rumour mill blowing, Matthews is in a market that for better or worse, anything other than commitment is scrutinized


I mean it goes either way. Personally I think hes staying for the money as endorsements, sponsors, and MLSE bank accounts are a big thing it seems to him along with Canadian fame.

Question is whats he getting and for how long as u got to thread that water carefully. To me 13mill x 8 years as man he did not have a great year. If he did what he did last year 14.34mill
May 15, 2023 at 2:07 p.m.
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He could have gone im unsure of things rn I need to take my time and see

Like other guys who arent full on committed






Like Nylander?
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May 15, 2023 at 2:08 p.m.
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Like Nylander?


Future capital
May 15, 2023 at 2:11 p.m.
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Future capital


you are getting Nick Schmaltz and you will like it
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May 15, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.
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Like Nylander?


His situation will be different and more-so based on money. If he wants to much probs traded. But if a team comes a long and offers a deal u cant refuse for him (massive overpay u also do it)

Cause when it comes to top C vs Wing you keep the C.

But in the end Leafs have almost 20mill to spend this offseason they can add 2 5mill wingers and be fine cap wise with a 22man team

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May 15, 2023 at 4:10 p.m.
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May 15, 2023 at 4:26 p.m.
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Leafs are in such a weird spot. This is like 6 years straight of fiddling out in the playoffs but they've yet to make changes to the core 4.

Ideally your trading Tavares imo but that seems nearly impossible due to his Cap Hit and Full NMC. I don't think you can trade Matthews despite him being easy to pick because he didn't light it up in the playoffs it sounds like he was playing hurt all year and he still managed a decent post season.

Which Leaves Marner and Nylander. Personally I'm trading Nylander. He's gonna want too much money. Also Marner has arguably been the most consistent player on that team I just don't think youy can trade him, plus I think he's also became a real leader.
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May 15, 2023 at 5:47 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Leafs are in such a weird spot. This is like 6 years straight of fiddling out in the playoffs but they've yet to make changes to the core 4.

Ideally your trading Tavares imo but that seems nearly impossible due to his Cap Hit and Full NMC. I don't think you can trade Matthews despite him being easy to pick because he didn't light it up in the playoffs it sounds like he was playing hurt all year and he still managed a decent post season.

Which Leaves Marner and Nylander. Personally I'm trading Nylander. He's gonna want too much money. Also Marner has arguably been the most consistent player on that team I just don't think youy can trade him, plus I think he's also became a real leader.


Imo, the Leafs would ideally trade JT or Matthews. Nylander, Marner have both been amazing, Nylander is the most movable of them though so he’s likely gone, even if I think that’s an error. Leafs are just likely stuck in that spot of “good regular season team that can’t figure out the playoffs” until they can do a serious overhaul imo
 
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