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Team: 2023-24 Chicago Blackhawks
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  1. Olofsson, Victor
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Buy low candidate that can help improve the roster a bit around Bedard and be a possible deadline flip
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May 20, 2023 at 10:01 a.m.
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Gonna cost a bit more than a 5th
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May 20, 2023 at 10:11 a.m.
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Edited May 20, 2023 at 10:17 a.m.
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Gonna cost a bit more than a 5th


A 2nd 5th??? Seems rich. (2) 6th rounders instead of (1) 5th?
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May 20, 2023 at 10:34 a.m.
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Gonna cost a bit more than a 5th


Nearly 5M for a one trick pony a year away from UFA.. don't think there will be a huge market out there and it's very advantageous for BUF to move him.
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May 20, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Garland>Oloffson
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May 20, 2023 at 10:56 a.m.
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Quoting: BUFF36
Gonna cost a bit more than a 5th


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A 2nd 5th??? Seems rich. (2) 6th rounders instead of (1) 5th?


Make it Murphy for Olofsson (50% retained) and a 2023 3rd.......
May 20, 2023 at 11:17 a.m.
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Buffalo pass, we need retain 50% on Olofsson and maybe we return 2nd or 3rd.
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May 20, 2023 at 11:22 a.m.
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Seems pretty terrible for Vancouver, don't see the point of it for Buffalo either, even if Olofsson is a one trick pony its at the hardest thing to do which is worth more then a very meh pick.
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May 20, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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How many 30 goal scorers are traded for a 5th
May 20, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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Unless one of Benson, Reinbacher, Sandin-Pelikka or someone else falls to 11 i think Canucks would accept, even though i think moving Garland over Boeser is a mistake
May 20, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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Canucks pass
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May 20, 2023 at 1:21 p.m.
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Nearly 5M for a one trick pony a year away from UFA.. don't think there will be a huge market out there and it's very advantageous for BUF to move him.


How is he a 1 trick Pony, won't be a market for a guy that can pop 30 goals for you and add 20 assists. If you say 1 trick because you think he's just a PP specialist than you haven't watched him much the last few years. With being injured last year the last 48 goals he has scored only 14 have come on the PP. 21 out of his 28 this year were 5 vs 5.
May 20, 2023 at 1:32 p.m.
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How is he a 1 trick Pony, won't be a market for a guy that can pop 30 goals for you and add 20 assists. If you say 1 trick because you think he's just a PP specialist than you haven't watched him much the last few years. With being injured last year the last 48 goals he has scored only 14 have come on the PP. 21 out of his 28 this year were 5 vs 5.


His value is really hard to pin down, especially on a fan board where the home fans have made him a scapegoat. Plus the winger market is pretty soft as it is. I'm not gonna be surprised if we keep him, if the market isn't there, I can see adams holding on for now. Much rather move a guy like mittelstadt, who I don't really believe in, as he finished the year strong and hopefully has more value (he played center, sometimes capably).
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May 20, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
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His value is really hard to pin down, especially on a fan board where the home fans have made him a scapegoat. Plus the winger market is pretty soft as it is. I'm not gonna be surprised if we keep him, if the market isn't there, I can see adams holding on for now. Much rather move a guy like mittelstadt, who I don't really believe in, as he finished the year strong and hopefully has more value (he played center, sometimes capably).


I agree, the biggest problem with Olofsson is you have to find the right situation. But I would rather keep him than take a 5th for him.
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May 20, 2023 at 2:08 p.m.
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Make it Murphy for Olofsson (50% retained) and a 2023 3rd.......


Biggest joke I've heard on here. Dude sucks and BUF fans know it. They just want to dump him before he's a healthy scratch next year. 4 straight years of declining ice time because he can't play a 5v5 game if his life depended on it.
May 20, 2023 at 2:10 p.m.
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How is he a 1 trick Pony, won't be a market for a guy that can pop 30 goals for you and add 20 assists. If you say 1 trick because you think he's just a PP specialist than you haven't watched him much the last few years. With being injured last year the last 48 goals he has scored only 14 have come on the PP. 21 out of his 28 this year were 5 vs 5.


He's literally never done what you're suggesting and BUF has been reducing his ice time year over year over year because his only talent is on the PP. Seems like the BUF organization might know a bit more than you because their actions are doing the talking.

He also takes a spot away from. TRad...who deserves that #2 RW more
May 20, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.
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He's literally never done what you're suggesting and BUF has been reducing his ice time year over year over year because his only talent is on the PP. Seems like the BUF organization might know a bit more than you because their actions are doing the talking.


What he had 49pts 2yrs ago, 20 goals and 29 assists, he had 42pts in 54gms with Eichel. He scored 28 goals last year. In the right situation he can do that.
May 20, 2023 at 2:19 p.m.
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What he had 49pts 2yrs ago, 20 goals and 29 assists, he had 42pts in 54gms with Eichel. He scored 28 goals last year. In the right situation he can do that.


I didn't say he wasn't close. He just hasn't done it. "Right situation"...ok I agree with this. "Change on scenery" is the same term, but the only reason he's not a cap dump is because BUF has a ton of cap space and Pegula has $. 5th round pick seems generous imo. He's about to get replaced by 1 of what seems like 7 high end prospects BUF has. Good for the team and I'm not trying to hate on the organization. I think they're going to be great soon. Just feels like we're taking a cap dump with a TON of qualifications that once we meet those qualifications and give HIM the valuable ice time vs our own players that MAYBE...THEN ...IF...we cater to him, we might see $4M worth of production from a PP winger.
May 20, 2023 at 2:23 p.m.
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How many 30 goal scorers are traded for a 5th


Let me know when he hits 30 and I'll keep you posted.
May 20, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
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I didn't say he wasn't close. He just hasn't done it. "Right situation"...ok I agree with this. "Change on scenery" is the same term, but the only reason he's not a cap dump is because BUF has a ton of cap space and Pegula has $. 5th round pick seems generous imo. He's about to get replaced by 1 of what seems like 7 high end prospects BUF has. Good for the team and I'm not trying to hate on the organization. I think they're going to be great soon. Just feels like we're taking a cap dump with a TON of qualifications that once we meet those qualifications and give HIM the valuable ice time vs our own players that MAYBE...THEN ...IF...we cater to him, we might see $4M worth of production from a PP winger.


That's fine on your thoughts, but he would be your leading scorer on Chicago. Just cause he might not fit the Sabres anymore because of the prospects we have coming doesn't take away the fact the kid can score.
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May 20, 2023 at 2:30 p.m.
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That's fine on your thoughts, but he would be your leading scorer on Chicago. Just cause he might not fit the Sabres anymore because of the prospects we have coming doesn't take away the fact the kid can score.


But that's the 1 trick pony. Yes I agree he had a shot and hes pretty good on the PP because of it. I think you also have to agree thay the BUF organization has acted in a way that he doesn't deserve more ice time...in fact he deserves less. And BUF isn't that good a team...AKA...not top 50% of the league. (Of course better than CHI) So having a player get reduced ice time on a team in the bottom half of the league... NOT likely teams are lining up for his $4.75M pending UFA contract.
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May 20, 2023 at 2:39 p.m.
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But that's the 1 trick pony. Yes I agree he had a shot and hes pretty good on the PP because of it. I think you also have to agree thay the BUF organization has acted in a way that he doesn't deserve more ice time...in fact he deserves less. And BUF isn't that good a team...AKA...not top 50% of the league. (Of course better than CHI) So having a player get reduced ice time on a team in the bottom half of the league... NOT likely teams are lining up for his $4.75M pending UFA contract.


I don't get your 1 trick pony, so 29 assists is nothing. And he's not getting more ice time because of the growth and development of younger players and because of his defensive deficiencies. He can fit into a top 6 with a good 200ft C on his line.
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May 20, 2023 at 2:47 p.m.
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I don't get your 1 trick pony, so 29 assists is nothing. And he's not getting more ice time because of the growth and development of younger players and because of his defensive deficiencies. He can fit into a top 6 with a good 200ft C on his line.


He can fit into a top 6 with a good 200' C... what are your thoughts in Tage/Cozens. Not good top 6 quality centers???

Look, we can agree to disagree. If Victor was worth keeping...BUF would keep him. That's kinda the end of the story. BUF needs to get better to make it into the playoffs. ALL these BUF posts from BUF fans trading Victor away is because the unproven prospects are better than what they've seen of Victor so far in his career. It's not like BUF needs the cap space. They just want to dump him while "perceived" value is there...but it's BUF fans perception of value toward their own player...bias. Send him somewhere to a contending team with limited cap space and 50% retention to maximize his value.

Yes, understood this isn't your post...it's a Hawks fans post, but he's doing exactly what I'm outlining. TDL flip because he won't be a healthy scratch as often with the Hawks as he will be in BUF.
May 20, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.
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He can fit into a top 6 with a good 200' C... what are your thoughts in Tage/Cozens. Not good top 6 quality centers???

Look, we can agree to disagree. If Victor was worth keeping...BUF would keep him. That's kinda the end of the story. BUF needs to get better to make it into the playoffs. ALL these BUF posts from BUF fans trading Victor away is because the unproven prospects are better than what they've seen of Victor so far in his career. It's not like BUF needs the cap space. They just want to dump him while "perceived" value is there...but it's BUF fans perception of value toward their own player...bias. Send him somewhere to a contending team with limited cap space and 50% retention to maximize his value.

Yes, understood this isn't your post...it's a Hawks fans post, but he's doing exactly what I'm outlining. TDL flip because he won't be a healthy scratch as often with the Hawks as he will be in BUF.


Well Skinner and Tuch with Tage has been 1 of the best lines in Hockey for 2 years and Quinn and Peterka have developed into making a good 2nd line with Cozens. Like was said development of younger players has pushed him down the line-up.
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May 20, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: BUFF36
Gonna cost a bit more than a 5th
Quoting: rktkt66
Make it Murphy for Olofsson (50% retained) and a 2023 3rd.......
Quoting: Fjordy
Buffalo pass, we need retain 50% on Olofsson and maybe we return 2nd or 3rd.
Quoting: MisstheWhalers
...don't see the point of it for Buffalo either, even if Olofsson is a one trick pony its at the hardest thing to do which is worth more then a very meh pick.
Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
How many 30 goal scorers are traded for a 5th
Quoting: BUFF36
How is he a 1 trick Pony, won't be a market for a guy that can pop 30 goals for you and add 20 assists. If you say 1 trick because you think he's just a PP specialist than you haven't watched him much the last few years. With being injured last year the last 48 goals he has scored only 14 have come on the PP. 21 out of his 28 this year were 5 vs 5.
Quoting: sabres89
His value is really hard to pin down, especially on a fan board where the home fans have made him a scapegoat. ...
Agree with every one above!
Why trade him for nothing just because the Sabres have prospects one, or two, or three years away.

Quoting: exo2769
But that's the 1 trick pony...
Fine, if you think the hawks do not want Olofsson, Buffalo cannot force the deal.
Buffalo would be foolish to trade him for essentially nothing.
Even if he were a "one trick pony" (which he is not), he does that trick exceptionlly well.
ONLY, 23 NHL fowards score faster than his 1.6 goals/60.
@Wadejos123 so while getting Olofsson for a fifth may be "Moves Id like to see happen" it is not going to happen.
Most of the Sabre fans above would like to see Tanev traded to Buffalo @ 50% retention for a 3rd also, but that trade will not happen either.
Unless Karmanos can get a decent return for Victor, he will be a Sabre as they have not only a roster spot for him, but sufficient cap space to carry him.
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May 20, 2023 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Agree with every one above!
Why trade him for nothing just because the Sabres have prospects one, or two, or three years away.

Fine, if you think the hawks do not want Olofsson, Buffalo cannot force the deal.
Buffalo would be foolish to trade him for essentially nothing.
Even if he were a "one trick pony" (which he is not), he does that trick exceptionlly well.
ONLY, 23 NHL fowards score faster than his 1.6 goals/60.
Wadejos123 so while getting Olofsson for a fifth may be "Moves Id like to see happen" it is not going to happen.
Most of the Sabre fans above would like to see Tanev traded to Buffalo 50% retention for a 3rd also, but that trade will not happen either.
Unless Karmanos can get a decent return for Victor, he will be a Sabre as they have not only a roster spot for him, but sufficient cap space to carry him.


I know you're a big karmanos guy. Every time I see a gm get fired I wanna light a candle.
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