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In the event Washington can not give up 8th overall for DeBrincat

Created by: sensonfire
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: May 30, 2023
Published: May 30, 2023
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I don't sell myself short just to be liked.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
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2$1,400,000
1$874,125
1$840,000
1$840,000
1$787,500
1$787,500
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$5,000,000
3$4,000,000
3$2,000,000
2$1,800,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (WSH)
  3. 2024 1st round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
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My asking price for DeBrincat is Lapierre and #8 overall.


But what if Matvei Michkov is available at #8 overall and Washington really wants Michkov?


I have a compromise.


My compromise is #40 overall and a Top 6 protected first for 2024.


And Lapierre.
2.
OTT
  1. 2023 4th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Joseph, Mathieu
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Anywhere for a 4th round pick.
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OTT
    Cap space for when the Leafs buy out Matt Murray
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    Tkachuk, Brady
    $8,205,714$8,205,714
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    UFA - 5
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    Stützle, Tim
    $8,350,000$8,350,000
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    UFA - 8
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    Giroux, Claude
    $6,500,000$6,500,000
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    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Bunting, Michael
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
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    UFA - 3
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    Norris, Joshua
    $7,950,000$7,950,000
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    UFA - 7
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    Fast, Jesper
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    UFA - 2
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    Sokolov, Egor
    $787,500$787,500
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    RFA - 1
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    Engvall, Pierre
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    Zub, Artem
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    Bernard-Docker, Jacob
    $874,125$874,125
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    RFA - 2
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    Thomson, Lassi
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    RFA - 1
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    Gauthier, Julien
    $840,000$840,000
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    UFA - 2
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    Kelly, Parker
    $762,500$762,500
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    RFA - 1

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    May 30, 2023 at 6:44 p.m.
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    seanrushton
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    That Freddie contract is not going to age well and you underpaying Fast
    May 30, 2023 at 6:45 p.m.
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    OTT should stay far far far far far away from ex leafs players
    May 30, 2023 at 6:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    That Freddie contract is not going to age well and you underpaying Fast


    1. We need a veteran goalie that can get us to the playoffs.


    2. Fast's last two contracts suggests I'm not.
    May 30, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
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    You're dreaming about getting that return for DeBrincat. Ottawa is having a cap problem if they have to QO DeBrincat, and no team is giving up two good assets for a guy who wants UFA money.
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    May 30, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: athrin
    OTT should stay far far far far far away from ex leafs players


    Would you stay far away from Connor Brown?
    May 30, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    1. We need a veteran goalie that can get us to the playoffs.


    2. Fast's last two contracts suggests I'm not.



    1. Andersen is definition of mercurial
    2. Fast analytics (at least in the last couple of years and them model I'm basing it off of) suggest he's underpaid
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    May 30, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
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    Yeah, if you ask me, you just rooked yourself. There's a large difference between '23 8oa and the other option. HUGE.
    May 30, 2023 at 6:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    You're dreaming about getting that return for DeBrincat. Ottawa is having a cap problem if they have to QO DeBrincat, and no team is giving up two good assets for a guy who wants UFA money.


    Washington seems to like DeBrincat more than most teams.
    May 30, 2023 at 6:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: seanrushton
    1. Andersen is definition of mercurial
    2. Fast analytics (at least in the last couple of years and them model I'm basing it off of) suggest he's underpaid


    1. We always have Forsberg if things go horribly wrong with Andersen.
    2. We'll see what happens.
    May 30, 2023 at 6:54 p.m.
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    Quoting: mokumboi
    Yeah, if you ask me, you just rooked yourself. There's a large difference between '23 8oa and the other option. HUGE.


    Getting #8 overall is not the main objective.

    The main objective is to save face from the trade with Chicago.
    May 30, 2023 at 6:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Getting #8 overall is not the main objective.

    The main objective is to save face from the trade with Chicago.


    And taking a bad return does that? Gosh, Maybe give him more than one season playing with a depth C.
    May 30, 2023 at 6:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    1. We always have Forsberg if things go horribly wrong with Andersen.
    2. We'll see what happens.


    1. Just make sure you have a third NHL-ready goaltender for when he inevitably gets injured
    2. We will
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    May 30, 2023 at 7:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    You're dreaming about getting that return for DeBrincat. Ottawa is having a cap problem if they have to QO DeBrincat, and no team is giving up two good assets for a guy who wants UFA money.


    Quoting: mokumboi
    And taking a bad return does that? Gosh, Maybe give him more than one season playing with a depth C.


    People on this site are funny sometimes.
    May 30, 2023 at 7:09 p.m.
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    Pretty fair Debrincat trade. I’d take it as a caps fan.
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    May 30, 2023 at 7:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: brady_t12
    Pretty fair Debrincat trade. I’d take it as a caps fan.


    Awesome cheers
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    May 30, 2023 at 7:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    People on this site are funny sometimes.


    Dude... I cannot be held responsible for what a Leafs fan says. tears of joy
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    May 30, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    You're dreaming about getting that return for DeBrincat. Ottawa is having a cap problem if they have to QO DeBrincat, and no team is giving up two good assets for a guy who wants UFA money.


    This.

    Ottawa won't get back half the assets they traded for Cat.
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    May 30, 2023 at 9:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: Victor24
    This.

    Ottawa won't get back half the assets they traded for Cat.


    Just did.

    Washington said so.
    May 30, 2023 at 9:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Just did.

    Washington said so.


    Oh well if they said so in your ACGM.... :P
    May 30, 2023 at 9:43 p.m.
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    Leafs won’t buy out murray. They moved on from mrazek at 3.8 they can move on from a much better Matt murray
    May 30, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: odyssey
    Leafs won’t buy out murray. They moved on from mrazek at 3.8 they can move on from a much better Matt murray


    A buyout for Murray saves the Leafs 4 million in cap space for next season.

    https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/matt-murray1



    And it's the #1 popular buyout on Capfriendly.

    Go to their main page and have a look.
    May 30, 2023 at 11:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Washington seems to like DeBrincat more than most teams.


    Take any Caps trade rumors with a grain of salt. Not that it's a super tight-lipped organization or anything, but the national guys pretty much ignore us, and our local media is just a bunch of junior reporters passing through on their way to bigger things who don't give enough of a **** to pry for that kind of info. I can't think of the last time we got rumors of interest in advance of a trade or a FA signing.

    As for the trade, I'd pass in MacLellan's shoes. I think the down year and the ugly QO situation have tanked DeBrincat's value more significantly than this. It's certainly not a trade they'd make during the draft based on how the top 7 shake out - any team giving up this kind of price for DeBrincat is gonna need to negotiate an extension for him before they pull the trigger, and that won't happen in the middle of the draft.
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    May 31, 2023 at 8:05 a.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    A buyout for Murray saves the Leafs 4 million in cap space for next season.

    https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/matt-murray1



    And it's the #1 popular buyout on Capfriendly.

    Go to their main page and have a look.


    Means nothing what people on cap friendly are doing. I don’t think they are going to buy him out
    May 31, 2023 at 8:52 a.m.
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    Quoting: Kalopsia
    Take any Caps trade rumors with a grain of salt. Not that it's a super tight-lipped organization or anything, but the national guys pretty much ignore us, and our local media is just a bunch of junior reporters passing through on their way to bigger things who don't give enough of a **** to pry for that kind of info. I can't think of the last time we got rumors of interest in advance of a trade or a FA signing.

    As for the trade, I'd pass in MacLellan's shoes. I think the down year and the ugly QO situation have tanked DeBrincat's value more significantly than this. It's certainly not a trade they'd make during the draft based on how the top 7 shake out - any team giving up this kind of price for DeBrincat is gonna need to negotiate an extension for him before they pull the trigger, and that won't happen in the middle of the draft.


    This opinion is contrary to other Caps fans on Capfriendly such as:

    brady_t12
    perrystreett
    ClockReads2113
    dors
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    May 31, 2023 at 8:53 a.m.
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    Quoting: odyssey
    Means nothing what people on cap friendly are doing. I don’t think they are going to buy him out


    Alrighty then.
     
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