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Leafs try again without Nylander and Matthews

Created by: Devils101
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 16, 2023
Published: Jun. 16, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Totally unrealistic haha but I feel the trades are mostly fair, but maybe I’m wrong haha
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$900,000
4$4,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
4$2,400,000
1$800,000
1$2,500,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Aho, Sebastian
  2. Pesce, Brett
  3. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Matthews, Auston
Additional Details:
Sign and trade , similar to Matthew Tkachuk trade.
Signs for 8 years , 12.7m AAV
2.
TOR
  1. Girard, Samuel
COL
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
3.
TOR
    Nothing
    CHI
    1. Hirvonen, Roni
    2. Murray, Matt
    3. Muzzin, Jake
    4. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
    5. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
    4.
    TOR
    1. 2024 1st round pick (WSH)
    2. 2025 3rd round pick (WSH)
    Additional Details:
    3rd becomes 2nd if Nylander resigns
    WSH
    1. Nylander, William
    5.
    TOR
    1. Lindholm, Elias
    CGY
    1. Villeneuve, William
    2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
    3. 2024 1st round pick (WSH)
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    Logo of the TOR
    2024
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the OTT
    2025
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the WSH
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the CHI
    Logo of the TOR
    Logo of the TOR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,500,000$80,342,417$0$0$3,157,583
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Waivers ExemptKnies, Matthew
    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    Aho, Sebastian
    $8,460,250$8,460,250
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Marner, Mitchell
    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Tavares, John
    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    Lindholm, Elias
    $4,850,000$4,850,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Brown, Connor
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Järnkrok, Calle
    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    RW, C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Kämpf, David
    $2,400,000$2,400,000
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Lafferty, Sam
    $1,150,000$1,150,000
    RW, C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Perry, Corey
    $800,000$800,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Holmberg, Pontus
    $900,000$900,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Acciari, Noel
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Rielly, Morgan
    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    Pesce, Brett
    $4,025,000$4,025,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Samsonov, Ilya
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
    Girard, Samuel
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Liljegren, Timothy
    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Woll, Joseph
    $766,667$766,667
    G
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    McCabe, Jake
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Brodie, TJ
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Giordano, Mark
    $800,000$800,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    Timmins, Conor
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    McMann, Bobby
    $762,500$762,500
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1

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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.
    #1
    Herb_Brooks
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    condition cant be based on resigning

    Matthews takes that deal in Toronto before he does in Carolina
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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:42 p.m.
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    Devils101
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    Quoting: Herb_Brooks
    condition cant be based on resigning

    Matthews takes that deal in Toronto before he does in Carolina


    Not if Brad Trevliving doesn’t give him that money.
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:44 p.m.
    #3
    perrystreett
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    Caps accept fur sure
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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:44 p.m.
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    No thanks from COL
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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:45 p.m.
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    Gabagool44
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    Quoting: Herb_Brooks
    condition cant be based on resigning

    Matthews takes that deal in Toronto before he does in Carolina[/quote

    I take Matthews all day long for 8 years at 12.7 AAV
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:46 p.m.
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    Herb_Brooks
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    Quoting: Devils101
    Not if Brad Trevliving doesn’t give him that money.


    Ok ill let you play in your fantasy land of ifs
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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:46 p.m.
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    Avs aren't trading NHL for not-nhl players rn
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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:47 p.m.
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    OldNYIfan
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    Matthews must have a great agent, because Los Angeles was only going to offer him $14.2 million for 7 years.
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.
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    Caniac555
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    This feels like trading Matthews just to trade Matthews, probably not what you’d ideally do. Value wise, Canes do it, but not realistic on either side.

    Pesce for Nylander straight up…now we are talking.
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.
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    Why in the world would COL do that? I know that all Leafs prospects walk on water but yeah that’s a hard no from COL.
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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:50 p.m.
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    Herb_Brooks
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    This feels like trading Matthews just to trade Matthews, probably not what you’d ideally do. Value wise, Canes do it, but not realistic on either side.

    Pesce for Nylander straight up…now we are talking.


    leafs decline
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:50 p.m.
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    Caniac555
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    Thanks for you insights Herb

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    leafs decline
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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:52 p.m.
    #13
    Ledge_And_Dairy
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    1. Thats not similar to Tkachuk at all. Just like with Severson, Florida paid premium for the 8th year. Any team can trade for Matthews as a rental and then sign him to an 8 year deal up until next seasons trade deadline. The value is probably not far off though as both Aho and Matthews are entering the last year of their contracts.

    2. You are definitely overpaying for Girard

    3. You shouldn't need to pay that much to dump Murray. Muzzin is on perma LTIR

    4. Nylander is worth more

    5. Lindholm is worth more
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.
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    InRodWeTrust
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    Quoting: Herb_Brooks
    Matthews takes that deal in Toronto before he does in Carolina


    Man I sure hope so
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: InRodWeTrust
    Man I sure hope so


    canes too good for one of the best players in the world?
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 4:58 p.m.
    #16
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    Quoting: Herb_Brooks
    canes too good for one of the best players in the world?


    yeah I'm not connecting the dots on that one. that contract amount just scares me.
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 5:02 p.m.
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    Hawks accept
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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 5:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: InRodWeTrust
    yeah I'm not connecting the dots on that one. that contract amount just scares me.


    cap percentage means more than the number itself and that percentage will lower as the cap keeps going up
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: Herb_Brooks
    cap percentage means more than the number itself and that percentage will lower as the cap keeps going up


    I get it, but its still high. I don't trust the NHL when it comes to future cap announcements. They have waffled on that too many times.
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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 5:14 p.m.
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    palhal
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    Can't see Washington giving up that for one year of Nylander. And Leafs certainly aren't giving two first rounders for a year of Lindholm.
    Massive overpayment to get rid of Murray...who has a an easy buyout. Muzzin as long as he stays on LTIR means nothing for cap purposes
    Yep, the trade is similar to the Tkachuk, but if Matthews won't sign the eight year deal with the Leafs, can't see him signing for eight years with the Canes.
    Jun. 16, 2023 at 5:17 p.m.
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    Wish it weren't the case but I question if Robertson will be able to last in pro hockey. He either has the worst luck or is the most injury prone guy.
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    Jun. 16, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.
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    Easy no for the Avs.
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