Detroit Red Wings signed Justin Holl (3 Years / $3,400,000 AAV)

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Was this a good signing?

Jul. 1, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.

#51

Claesson4Norris

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Yzerman is a fraud

Jul. 1, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.

#52

Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: Hat_Trick_Swayze

Better than TJ Brodie at 5m 😆

This is just... not true at all. Brodie has one year and he's one of the best defensive d in the league

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Jul. 1, 2023 at 1:45 p.m.

#53

Orr28

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Quoting: Hat_Trick_Swayze

Better than TJ Brodie at 5m 😆

Really? Metrics wise, Brodie was among the best on defense last year.

Jul. 1, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.

#54

majormoose007

MajorMoose

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As long as Detroit doesn't overuse him they should be ok

Jul. 1, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.

#55

Hollands_missing_brain

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Back to back off-seasons and signing less than desirable RD for multi-year deals. Christ Stevie

Jul. 1, 2023 at 1:54 p.m.

#56

rollie1967

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Holl is a #4 dman?? maybe in the AHL... he was a healthy scratch in the playoffs! on a bad defensive team! got outplayed by a mile by Luke Schenn!

He is a bottom pairing dman... anything over $1mil is suspect... one of the worst deals Ive seen today ( so far).

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Jul. 1, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.

#57

DongLord23

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Quoting: Babatunde

No he's bad LOOOL

You can tell who has actually watched him play based on these comments lol.

He's completely garbage.

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Jul. 1, 2023 at 2:20 p.m.

#58

Tintin

do not Devil my ass

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Jul. 1, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.

#59

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Chiarot - Holl

What a 2nd pair has the "best GM in the league" mustered up for his team.

Only $8M dollars annually, for the next 3 years.

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Jul. 1, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.

#60

CSStrowbridge

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Quoting: jpsnow13

Loved him in the bubble but he's a very irregular guy. That DET defense doesn't look good at all (on the veteran side).

Yep. His stats are not bad, but when he's off, he is really off.

Jul. 1, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.

#61

andrewj72

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Looking at what Clifton and Schenn got (and likely Mayfield soon) this is just the market unfortunately. I’m fine with the player just wish it were 2 years

Jul. 1, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.

#62

CSStrowbridge

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Quoting: rollie1967

Any player who is a healthy scratch shouldn't get anything more than a 100% buriable contract. I think that's $1.15 million this year.

Jul. 1, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.

#63

KSIxSKULLS

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Quoting: CSStrowbridge

Any player who is a healthy scratch shouldn't get anything more than a 100% buriable contract. I think that's $1.15 million this year.

Brock Boeser

Jul. 1, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.

#64

CSStrowbridge

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Quoting: andrewj72

Looking at what Clifton and Schenn got (and likely Mayfield soon) this is just the market unfortunately. I’m fine with the player just wish it were 2 years

Schenn's a better player. Schenn will play his fullest every night.

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Jul. 1, 2023 at 2:30 p.m.

#65

CSStrowbridge

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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS

Brock Boeser

Did Holl's dad die?

Jul. 1, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.

#66

KSIxSKULLS

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Quoting: CSStrowbridge

Did Holl's dad die?

That's not why he was scratched

Jul. 1, 2023 at 3:04 p.m.

#67

CSStrowbridge

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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS

That's not why he was scratched

It's part of the reason he asked for a trade, so it is part of the reason he was scratched.

Jul. 1, 2023 at 3:08 p.m.

#68

Leafsfan98

Leafs going to Leafs

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Over hated player... I think Chiarot is on his way out though

Jul. 1, 2023 at 3:09 p.m.

#69

Leafsfan98

Leafs going to Leafs

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Quoting: Hat_Trick_Swayze

Better than TJ Brodie at 5m 😆

Tell me you don't know puck without telling you don't know puck

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Jul. 1, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.

#70

HelmutCool

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Juat on a reminder. To all of the Leafs Nation. "Holl is solid, well worth a 2nd pick", just doesnt fit our roster, but other teams should trade assets for him"
And today: " He is horrible", "Crappiest dman in nhl" "at best 7th D"
At least be consistent...

Jul. 1, 2023 at 3:20 p.m.

#71

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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Tom Fitzgerald would NEVER

Jul. 1, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.

#72

mbhound

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this guy worse than inverse mcdavid

Jul. 1, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.

#73

Ritzy

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Quoting: PantsOffnJacket

Ever notice your comments don't get a much of likes?

Holl is easily a #4 dman and if he wasn't in Toronto under the microscope he wouldn't be thought of the way we knee jerk when he's mentioned.

Good signing by Stevie Y.

Weird, he wasn't that while in Toronto, confirmed by many fan bases.

Now that he's not in Toronto? He's now worth more than what Toronto was paying him.

Funny how that works.

Jul. 1, 2023 at 7:21 p.m.

#74

mondo

torontos finest