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OEL like trade V2

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Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 27, 2023
Published: Aug. 27, 2023
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23$83,500,000$81,291,111$850,000$30,000$2,208,889
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
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UFA - 3
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
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UFA - 7
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
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UFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
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RFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 3
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$786,111$786,111 (Performance Bonus$30,000$30K)
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RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LW
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
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$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
C
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$836,667$836,667 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
RFA - 2
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$883,750$883,750 ($0$0$0$0)
C
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$950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$475,000$475K)
RW, C
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 6:16 p.m.
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Seth Jones declines
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.
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Hawks have no need to move Jones. He'll still be in his prime by the time we're ready to complete and the cap is about to rise quite a bit on top of the 50M in cap we have
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 6:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Hawks have no need to move Jones. He'll still be in his prime by the time we're ready to complete and the cap is about to rise quite a bit on top of the 50M in cap we have


Seth Jones will be 29 at the beginning of the season. The Hawks are like 4+ years away from being a contender….
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 6:42 p.m.
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Hawks decline. Podkolzin and a 2nd doesn't come close to getting Jones, even if the Hawks did want to move him. Which they don't.
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 7:37 p.m.
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Seth Jones will be 29 at the beginning of the season. The Hawks are like 4+ years away from being a contender….


The hawks could probably be a potential playoff team in 24/25 depending on the development of their young guys and how much they do in free agency. Seth Jones will probably still be a pretty effective d man into his early to mid thirties
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 8:01 p.m.
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The OEL trade wasn’t bad enough that now you want to do it again? Thankfully Chicago would pass.
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Aug. 27, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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I'm sure this post came from his comments about them notifying Seth (the obvious that he should have already known) about their intentions of developing their LD in their system instead and that's why they let Caleb go to UFA.

Seth's in his 2nd year of an 8 year deal. He's here and we want him here. He'll have to be part of the leadership here.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 9:45 a.m.
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Seth Jones will be 29 at the beginning of the season. The Hawks are like 4+ years away from being a contender….


The notion about Jones that CHI wants to move him, or that he is a bad defenseman, or that he has "the worst contract in the league", is not something that is shared by CHI's front office or fan base. The only way CHI moves him is if they are getting a haul for him, and that would first require him to ask for a trade or be willing to accept one. Otherwise, they really have no reason to move him.

I don't care how old he is or is going to be, or what his cap hit is, etc. Considering everything they have invested in him, all the cap space they have, all the positions they have open over the next few years, and how little they have in the pipeline for RHD, it makes very little sense for them to consider his contract enough of a burden to justify absorbing such a huge loss in value (i.e. Boqvist, Jiricek, Sillinger, taking on all of the cap this ACGM proposes, etc.).

Even if CHI agreed with those outside notions, when you add up all of these factors, they are better off just having him play out his contract.

But, that is just the feeling I get. I could certainly be wrong. It's possible they are playing their cards close to the vest, and they are secretly eager to move his contract out if the opportunity were to arise. Even so, it still makes very little sense to take such a huge loss, unless they have some very specific trade/free agent targets in mind that they need the space for immediately. They are better off putting him in the best possible position to succeed, hoping he has a big season or two, wait for Jones to get ancy and ask for a trade, and then wait for the calls to start coming in.
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